This is incredibly drastic data.
Is it? The difference is in 2-4 year range for most of the chart. Is 2-4 years of life expectancy drastic? I didn't read it as such, but I'm not really sure how to assess how big that difference is, honestly...
The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
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#92Christ Jesus, the USA are on average as good as Merthyr Tydfil, the epicenter of Welsh coal mining, which Maggie Thatcher destroyed. It's bad, but no one anticipated it to be that bad.
Yeah, well, as long as I can sling code for 100K+ a year in this fine country, it’s not my problem what happens thousands of miles away over in Mississippi. —HN
Do you understand the irony of saying this when we're literally on a thread discussing and caring about the problem that is obviously more affecting the demographics that are non-HN'ers?
Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#93This is incredibly drastic data.
Is it? The difference is in 2-4 year range for most of the chart. Is 2-4 years of life expectancy drastic? I didn't read it as such, but I'm not really sure how to assess how big that difference is, honestly...
2-4y of life expectancy is typically an even greater discrepancy is morbidity. So if you die 3y earlier and are 'morbid'/ have life affecting illness for another 2y - you've basically halved the average enjoyable period of retirement for most people. I'd say that's quite drastic.
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#94each dot represents metro area representing 100k. I wonder how this would look if you separate the data by race and average weight?
The article breaks it down; disparity is consistent across age, race, gender, income…
Article? I only see one chart? It doesn't mention anything about race and weight.
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#96It would be quite interesting to see with the x-axis unnormalised and; at the moment the equivalent American percentiles are probably materially richer than their UK counterparts, so the effect is larger than shown in real terms.
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#97The original article points out that the primary difference between the US and the UK (as well as other peer countries) is that you're much more likely to die young in the US. A 5-year-old in the United States has a 4% chance of dying before age 40, whereas a 5-year-old in Australia, Austria, Canada, England and Wales, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden, or Switzerland has ~1% chance of dying before age 40 (values appear to range from ~0.9% to ~1.25%). This suggests that the US's shorter lifespans aren't primarily caused by poorer healthcare outcomes, but rather social problems like drug overdoses, gun violence, and car accidents.
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#98Tweetspam, without even a link to the original thread: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799627128143873?...
Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England
#99It would be quite interesting to see with the x-axis unnormalised and; at the moment the equivalent American percentiles are probably materially richer than their UK counterparts, so the effect is larger than shown in real terms.
Oops, that was the next tweet: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799667942866944?...
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#100"1 in 25 Americans being born will not make it to their 40th birthday." Wow. Actually impressed with the analysis backing this up. If you read the entire thread, he actually covers nearly every correlating factor I could think of. And it's pretty clearly drugs, guns, suicide, and cars. (The cardio health one doesn't seem as strong). The one that is crazy to me is the uptick in driving fatalities. Cars are an order of…
Drivers in the US just seem incredibly aggressive to me. I remember crossing some street in downtown Pittsburgh, and a car coming towards me. The guy was clearly seeing me, and accelerating instead of slowing down. I jumped forwards and survived.