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Re: Original Prusa MK4

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Post by bufferout »

bmitc wrote: post #41

I'll have to take a look at this. I have been wanting to get my first printer and am willing to spend more to get one that I don't ever have to fuss around with, as I just want to use the printer and not work on it. I was heavily considering the MK3S+, but I had talked myself into going with a Bambu Lab printer, either the P1P or X1 Carbon: https://bambulab.com/en . So this new offering from Prusa deserves a look, bu…

X1 owner here. Previously owned the mk3s+. Bambu is your best choice today and really a quantum leap in terms of performance. you will still need to occasionally fuss with things, mostly in terms of optimal slicer settings, but I still get the odd physical failure that requires intervention e.g. filament snapping in the guide tube, object seperating from the sheet misprint, etc.

The AMS has been wonderful for me: no longer manually swapping out filaments, and cool tricks like automatically laying down a layer of easily-removed support filament between model and support structure.

Re: Original Prusa MK4

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Post by operatingthetan »

syntaxing wrote: post #90

I've been always a huge fan of Prusa and always wanted one (just haven't for various reasons, not so much financial related). But this feels too little too late. Bambulabs is absolutely eating the market and I would be sweating if I were Prusa Research. It sucks since Bambulabs is using their slicer and a lot of Prusa's technology as a foundation. But most of the people I know have decided to skip waiting for the XL…

>It sucks since Bambulabs is using their slicer and a lot of Prusa's technology as a foundation.

Prusa's slicer is just a fork of Slic3r so I'd say that's fair play. Prusa just aggressively brands opensource stuff.

Re: Original Prusa MK4

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Post by reaperman »

operatingthetan wrote: post #92
syntaxing wrote: post #90

I've been always a huge fan of Prusa and always wanted one (just haven't for various reasons, not so much financial related). But this feels too little too late. Bambulabs is absolutely eating the market and I would be sweating if I were Prusa Research. It sucks since Bambulabs is using their slicer and a lot of Prusa's technology as a foundation. But most of the people I know have decided to skip waiting for the XL…

>It sucks since Bambulabs is using their slicer and a lot of Prusa's technology as a foundation. Prusa's slicer is just a fork of Slic3r so I'd say that's fair play. Prusa just aggressively brands opensource stuff.

> Prusa just aggressively brands opensource stuff.

I mean, they fork it, develop it further, and give it back to the community. That's entirely within the spirit of open source!

"Aggressively branding open-source stuff" would be like Chinese Alibaba sellers ripping off open hardware or Amazon redistributing PostgreSQL as an AWS SaaS offering.

Re: Original Prusa MK4

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Post by 725686 »

I have one of the first Prusas... and it sucks. It sucked from the very fist day. Faulty components. Material would not stick to the table. Warping. Miserable experience. It has been collecting dust ever since.

Re: Original Prusa MK4

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Post by RobotToaster »

mzi wrote: post #10
j-pb wrote: post #5

Really nice to see steady incremental improvements to an already solid platform! It's small stuff like no longer having to manually Z-Adjust, and having the print-head connected via easy to undo/replace connectors, that seem like small things but are huge time- and nerve-savers when it comes to actually running these things in production. Crazy to see how far Prusa has come with his stuff, I still remember sitting an…

They also just published a blog post[0] discussing the hardware equivalent of SSPL if I get it correctly. 0: https://blog.prusa3d.com/the-state-of-open-source-in-3d-prin...

Several of those suggestions would violate the OSHW definition, a definition that was endorsed by Prusa himself: https://freedomdefined.org/OSHW

Re: Original Prusa MK4

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Post by Symbiote »

lvl102 wrote: post #82

These are nice and I have MK3 as well. However, I am doing most of my prints on HP MJF these days. It’s so much better and the cost is very reasonable. FDMs are good toys that require love. A lot of it (which can be good and bad).

Are you referring to a $250,000 HP MJF printer, or is there something else?

Re: Original Prusa MK4

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Post by operatingthetan »

reaperman wrote: post #93
operatingthetan wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It sucks since Bambulabs is using their slicer and a lot of Prusa's technology as a foundation. Prusa's slicer is just a fork of Slic3r so I'd say that's fair play. Prusa just aggressively brands opensource stuff.

> Prusa just aggressively brands opensource stuff. I mean, they fork it, develop it further, and give it back to the community. That's entirely within the spirit of open source! "Aggressively branding open-source stuff" would be like Chinese Alibaba sellers ripping off open hardware or Amazon redistributing PostgreSQL as an AWS SaaS offering.

I figured someone would take issue with that, I guess my problem is they don't do a great job of attribution.

Re: Original Prusa MK4

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Post by qiller »

725686 wrote: post #94

I have one of the first Prusas... and it sucks. It sucked from the very fist day. Faulty components. Material would not stick to the table. Warping. Miserable experience. It has been collecting dust ever since.

Times have changed. Never had an issue with MK3, compared to Ender impressions.

Re: Original Prusa MK4

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Post by asveikau »

jsjohnst wrote: post #84
tcoop25 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just canceled my X1-Carbon order. Just spend some time on the Bambu Labs subreddit and you will see a lot of frustrated owners. It is insanely loud, and it seems unreliable and buggy. I have owned a lot of printers over the years, and the only printers I, or any of my colleagues come back to are Prusa printers. They are incredibly reliable. The few times we have had issues with a part, we have been able to print a…

> Just spend some time on the Bambu Labs subreddit and you will see a lot of frustrated owners. I have had mine (w/ four total AMS units) for two months now and have over 500hrs of printing so far w/ minimal failed prints. I often print in sport and/or ludicrous too. I own eight other 3D printers of various major brands (including Prusa) and it’s by far and away the best I’ve ever owned. Easily comparable to printers…

> Your loss!

This reminds me of an attitude I see in some of these hobby communities. The idea that someone who is happy with a different product is somehow wrong or losing. People are highly invested and identified with their choices. Why not just be ok with choices other people make, even if we disagree with them?

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