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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Years using the trackpoint gave me carpal tunnel. Try not to use it exclusively.

I've been using a nipplemouse for at least 20 years. Exclusively. I hate trackpads. I always disable mine. I always use tables that my elbows rest on the table.

How do you scroll? You reach for the pgdown?

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#92
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post #51

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16:10 has been around and relatively popular for at least 17 years. The original 2006 MacBook Pro had a 16:10 1440x900 panel

Most if not all MacBooks today are still 16:10 ratio..

Strictly speaking they're not; the bit below the notch is, but you get a bit of extra space around the notch to accommodate a menu bar.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#93
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This is starting to be a really interesting choice compared to sticking to thinkpads. The dream would be to have 6 expansion cards in the laptop 13. 4 really is a bummer for a work laptop, it's definitely not enough for me… And while you can easily carry other expansion cards and switch at will, it's kinda like carrying adapters, you easily forget them.

Are there any 13" laptops on the market with more than 4 ports? None that come to my mind. My macbook air has only 2 x USB C and I've never come across a situation where I needed more. For a 13" 4 ports is more than most people require and it wouldn't make sense for a small start up to only target extremely niche use cases.

It is not a laptop, but Asus PN53 has 1kg with 7 USB port, 2x2.5 Gb ethernet, 4x4k@60Hz displays, 64GB RAM and 3xSSD. I use it as a docking station while traveling.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#94
post #51

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16:10 has been around and relatively popular for at least 17 years. The original 2006 MacBook Pro had a 16:10 1440x900 panel

IIRC it's so since Titanium PowerBooks which were the first to go widescreen at Apple, so it's 2001. Then aluminum PowerBooks with 16:10 screens, too. Intel MacBook Pros continued the trend.

... Wait, really? Huh. I thought the Powerbooks were 4:3 til the end, but yeah, just looked and you're right. (I had a G4 iBook at the time, which was 4:3).

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#95
I'm thinking of my next laptop. I only use it for work (programmer) plus maybe play movies. I have no interest in games.

I don't like Windows, and am so-so about Mac, so that probably leaves Ubuntu, which I already use outside of my day job.

Are these the kinds of laptops I should buy? Or are there other recommendations?

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#96
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for the 16": - I would love an option to have upwards firing speakers where flex/numpad space goes instead (one on each side). - please improve the bass in the speakers. according to notebookcheck's review, framework speakers have poor/near 0 bass output. - please offer either a 1080p or 4k screen option on the 16". 1440p-ish screens with DPI scaling hackery is no fun and often leads to blurry UIs.

It's a software problem of the software you are using, and not a hardware problem.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#97
post #91

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I've been using a nipplemouse for at least 20 years. Exclusively. I hate trackpads. I always disable mine. I always use tables that my elbows rest on the table.

How do you scroll? You reach for the pgdown?

Middle mouse button plus moving the trackpoint works well for me.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#98
post #91

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I've been using a nipplemouse for at least 20 years. Exclusively. I hate trackpads. I always disable mine. I always use tables that my elbows rest on the table.

How do you scroll? You reach for the pgdown?

my t480s thinkpad has middle 'mouse' button just above the trackpad which you can hold down to enable scroll control.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Isn't the point of these that you can modularly customise everything? Or does that not include the screen?

You cannot just pop in any panel that you like. The whole assembly needs to accommodate for it. I think your company would have to be obscenely rich to afford such a supply chain so it could offer different display assemblies for the same laptop.

I'd have thought there would be some kind of loose standards that come with the combination of economies of scale and provisions for options for consumers when it comes to existing larger players in the space.

Eg, I know some laptop manufacturers offer a choice of a few different display options when configuring builds - so framework choosing the display form-factor of a popular one could be an instant win for modularity.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#100
post #82
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I bought mine for like 4 bucks. Digital license linked to my account :>

Care to explain how?

Got it from an independent license vendor (https://www.license4you.de/windows-11-pro-neu?number=ID-1005..., but there's several).

I have no idea how they get the keys (probably OEM) and whether this is actually kosher (and I don't wanna know) but I did this with Win 10 some years ago as well and it has worked out thus far.

Just pay with e.g. PP and they'll send you the key via e-mail.

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