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Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by gannonburgett »

codersfocus wrote: post #68
gannonburgett wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Former DPReview News Editor (who left after getting news of this back on January 18th) here: There were 8-10 members of the editorial team that were full time and a small group of freelancers. Add in about 8-10 more devs, who cycled in and out for the most part. So, 15-18 people, tops. By my rough math once, our entire operating cost for the year was about 10-12 minutes worth of Amazon revenue.

Is it true that they're not going to sell the assets, and just shut everything down? If I had connections to an investment banker, I'd be trying to see if there's an in with Amazon...

I wasn’t privy to that information even before I left (Feb), but from what a few people who were/are privy to that information have told me, it doesn’t appear as though Amazon is at all interested in selling off the IP. So yea. Just shut it all down. Which is a fucking shame.

Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by tonyarkles »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #79
johnvanommen wrote: post #71

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I have a $600 DSLR that I bought at Costco on a whim, fifteen years ago. Once in a blue moon I look at my old photos and realize they just look night and day better than anything I've taken in the last decade. Camera phone lenses do alright when it's sunny outside, but DSLRs kill it when it comes to medium and low light.

The only people who think Smartphone Cameras take better pictures than SLRs are not photographers. It is not just low light, it is depth of field, exposure control, the minimization or absence of computed exposures. I have an iPhone 13 Pro Max and only shot in RAW mode. That is the best I can do. Saving money fro a mirrorless camera so i can start shooting again.

> The only people who think Smartphone Cameras take better pictures than SLRs are not photographers.

Amateur photographer here, currently have a Canon 80D and a 20-year collection of medium-quality lenses. You're completely right. The photos that this thing takes are miles ahead of my iPhone 12 Pro; you just can't beat a sensor with big pixels and an aperture that's 10-100x (? I don't know the actual ratio) larger than a smartphone lens. But the one nuance is the old saying "the best camera in the world is the one you've got with you"; I have some beautiful shots from this camera, and the 20D before it, and the Rebel XT before it, but some of my absolute favourites were shot on a smartphone because it was in my pocket at the right time and the DSLR was at home in the bag.

Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by acyou »

antisthenes wrote: post #82
op00to wrote: post #74

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I used to shoot only medium and large format film. Maybe 3-4 years ago, I realized I can do everything I want with my phone camera.

If you honestly think your phone camera is a valid replacement for medium/large format film, then you were never serious about photography in the first place. For all their improvements, smartphones are still extremely limited by sensor size and the size of optics. Those are terrible, compared to even the entry level DSLRs. I'm glad it works for your use case (although I can't imagine what that is), but any decent ph…

The best camera is the one you have ready.

Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by TheRealPomax »

I assume a full site mirror will be submitted to the @internetarchive? Because it would be insane to pull 25 years of detailed information that cannot easily be found elsewhere off the internet just because your dad doesn't want you living at home anymore.

Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by stanski »

johnvanommen wrote: post #71
bradlys wrote: post #46

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a "boom" is an overstatement. The camera industry overall is dying and struggling. We're down to something like 10% of camera sales from 2010. There is no boom. There is a transition from DSLR to mirrorless for the few existing dedicated camera photographers out there.

I have a $600 DSLR that I bought at Costco on a whim, fifteen years ago. Once in a blue moon I look at my old photos and realize they just look night and day better than anything I've taken in the last decade. Camera phone lenses do alright when it's sunny outside, but DSLRs kill it when it comes to medium and low light.

Not to mention that almost all photo consumption happens on a phone as well.

Only when you open a phone photo on a big screen and compared to one taken by a real lens do you realize the big difference. Despite all the incredible technology in phone cameras, there is no substitute for proper optics.

Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by silisili »

antisthenes wrote: post #82
op00to wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to shoot only medium and large format film. Maybe 3-4 years ago, I realized I can do everything I want with my phone camera.

If you honestly think your phone camera is a valid replacement for medium/large format film, then you were never serious about photography in the first place. For all their improvements, smartphones are still extremely limited by sensor size and the size of optics. Those are terrible, compared to even the entry level DSLRs. I'm glad it works for your use case (although I can't imagine what that is), but any decent ph…

The vast, vast, vast majority of pictures are viewed on a 6ish inch screen. You'll have real trouble telling much difference there.

Now if you're blowing things up into a poster, it becomes much more apparent, granted, but it's not a common use case.

Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by tmalsburg2 »

I learned a lot from DPReview about photography, but I also learned a surprising amount from them about what excellent writing looks like. Sometimes I read long reviews about cameras that I wasn't even interested in just because the writing was so good.

Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by dylan604 »

asdff wrote: post #87
dylan604 wrote: post #80

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new from Samsung. it's a black box perfectly square just to make Jobs turn over in his grave. there are no lenses, but it's the most incredible camera you've ever seen. it has a microphone where you tell it the image you want... "I want to see a picture with me at the Grand Canyon with nobody else in the shot at sunset after storm has just passed with a rainbow in the background" waits a few seconds, boom. post to so…

I can't decide if in the future we will be bloblike sloths in chairs like in Wall-E , or maybe it will be like The Matrix but you are plugged into a peleton bike.

where did you get the peleton reference from The Matrix? even the machines realized that was wasted. you spend your entire life cycle in a sensory deprivation tank with the computer telling you how much of a good time you are having. wasting energy on actually moving muscles is absurd! that's not thinking like a machine

Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by noveltyaccount »

I was just thinking about this site the other day. I was on a trip with an older DSLR Nikon D3200 and a Samsung S21 Ultra. Most of the time I had to look at metadata to tell which photos came from which, a fact that I found staggering. I thought back to how critical DP Review was 10–15 years ago and how much our phone cameras have closed that gap. Remarkable.

Re: DPReview.com to close

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Post by MR4D »

codersfocus wrote: post #68
gannonburgett wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Former DPReview News Editor (who left after getting news of this back on January 18th) here: There were 8-10 members of the editorial team that were full time and a small group of freelancers. Add in about 8-10 more devs, who cycled in and out for the most part. So, 15-18 people, tops. By my rough math once, our entire operating cost for the year was about 10-12 minutes worth of Amazon revenue.

Is it true that they're not going to sell the assets, and just shut everything down? If I had connections to an investment banker, I'd be trying to see if there's an in with Amazon...

I think they should go to LTT instead. They're both Canadian, and the name is less relevant than the brand.

If they got it ironed out before April 10th, they probably could put a link to it.

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