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Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by wsc981 »

chongli wrote: post #85
burntalmonds wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"..what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious.." Anyone know what his specific issues are?

If I had to guess, it would be Gatekeeper and SIP. These technologies can really get in your way if you’re used to having full access to your own machine.

That was my guess as well. And as a lifelong Mac user it makes me consider switching to Linux as well.

It’s just that I still need macOS for iOS dev right now, but that might change in coming months ...

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by rasengan »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #87
burntalmonds wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"..what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious.." Anyone know what his specific issues are?

I don't think there are specific issues. The problem is that with each release of macOS usability, reliability and performance regress. If you're interested in these things and not so much in "bling" and questionable new features, then you'd share probably Ken's "atrocious" opinion. An example is the latest System Preferences. It's virtually unusable.

Apple ecosystem is no longer software - only apps. It’s hard to do(code) normal things on the OS because of all of the fancy “security”

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by speedgoose »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #87
burntalmonds wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"..what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious.." Anyone know what his specific issues are?

I don't think there are specific issues. The problem is that with each release of macOS usability, reliability and performance regress. If you're interested in these things and not so much in "bling" and questionable new features, then you'd share probably Ken's "atrocious" opinion. An example is the latest System Preferences. It's virtually unusable.

The latest system preferences are an improvement to me. It was a mess before and it’s still a mess but the app layout makes it easier to browse, and at least it’s consistent with iOS.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by newsclues »

justinzollars wrote: post #40
kjhughes wrote: post #30

For those who might prefer text over video: Q: What's your operating system of choice, today? A: I have for most of my life, because I was sort of born into it, run Apple. Right now, recently, meaning within the last five years, I’ve become more and more and more depressed and [Laughter] what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious, but they are taking a lot of space and time to d…

I have to admit, I tried and failed to switch away from Apple. I bought a Linux Laptop - an System 76. I was surprised at how terrible the battery management of linux was compared with my mac. And that particular issue broke me.

Linux Workstation with a Mac laptop seems to best the best of both worlds. I even have a windows box for gaming.

I pick the right tool for the job and try not to apply ideology to tool choice.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by Kon-Peki »

HighChaparral wrote: post #11
tyingq wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He seems quite serious. He mentions he has 12 stacks of 4 each of the Rpi devices, and another 20 around the house.

The real reason for the shortages is revealed!

Hey now, before the pandemic, you could get as many Pi4s as you wanted. And if you were ok with the 2GB and/or 4GB version, they were usually selling at less than MSRP.

At the Microcenter near me, they kept stacks of them in a cabinet near the cash registers, and would offer them up at a discount when checking out.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by solarkraft »

nntwozz wrote: post #27

Well good for him. But we have to let go of this notion that for GNU/Linux to win, Apple has to lose. I'm paraphrasing but can't shake that feeling when I hear those claps in the video. When are we ever going to grow up?

I don't read it like that. I interpret it as people just really liking Linux.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by Kye »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #54

Before spending time around here, I used to think it would be an embarrassing reveal for most programmers if it came out they used Apple hardware. Like being a WWII expert and rooting for Germany. Couldn't believe that people who could appreciate the beautiful magic of coding and OSS could still even like hyper-commodity computers. But I understand now how naive that was.

"It Just Works" was Apple's value proposition for a long time. Now that's on shakier ground, and other operating systems are catching up on stability to the point where the vastly superior cost:performance of non-Apple hardware increasingly wins out. Linux and Windows OEMs are also catching up on style with options available that don't compromise on repairability.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by dkjaudyeqooe »

zht wrote: post #64
kjhughes wrote: post #30

For those who might prefer text over video: Q: What's your operating system of choice, today? A: I have for most of my life, because I was sort of born into it, run Apple. Right now, recently, meaning within the last five years, I’ve become more and more and more depressed and [Laughter] what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious, but they are taking a lot of space and time to d…

Nice to be able to laugh at the word depression

They're not laughing at the word, they're laughing at the notion that he has become depressed by being an "Apple user".

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by worthless-trash »

speedgoose wrote: post #93
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think there are specific issues. The problem is that with each release of macOS usability, reliability and performance regress. If you're interested in these things and not so much in "bling" and questionable new features, then you'd share probably Ken's "atrocious" opinion. An example is the latest System Preferences. It's virtually unusable.

The latest system preferences are an improvement to me. It was a mess before and it’s still a mess but the app layout makes it easier to browse, and at least it’s consistent with iOS.

I am however, not using IOS.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by andybak »

zht wrote: post #64
kjhughes wrote: post #30

For those who might prefer text over video: Q: What's your operating system of choice, today? A: I have for most of my life, because I was sort of born into it, run Apple. Right now, recently, meaning within the last five years, I’ve become more and more and more depressed and [Laughter] what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious, but they are taking a lot of space and time to d…

Nice to be able to laugh at the word depression

The word "depressed" has multiple meanings only one of which refers to clinical depression.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/depression

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