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Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Yes, it's possible. But saying "guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts" isn't the way. It just reveals their biases.

It’s biased to make a statement of fact?

Statements of facts are biased when they hurt the feelings of people who refuse to accept them.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#92
post #24

All of these moves make sense when you zoom out and realize Musk has no interest in Twitter as a business. It is a megaphone to amplify his own voice and the voices that support his viewpoints. Having third party API consumers able to pull in content and reorder it other than how he wants it presented is counter to that goal. The genius of Fox News was "why spend money on buying political attack ads when you can just…

> The genius of Fox News was "why spend money on buying political attack ads when you can just buy the network and run them all day long."

No, that's a misunderstanding. What Fox News cares about is growing and maintaining an audience because that's what profitable. In pursuit of that profit, Fox News will foster its community however it can.

And so, driven by profit seeking, Fox News has embraced total nihilism. Fox News will spin any narrative, tell any lie, invent any fiction if it thinks it is what its audience wants to hear. The more Fox News offers its audience comforting fictions, no matter how untrue, the better for the bottom line.

You don't have to believe me on that. It's what Fox News says of itself:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/08/tucker-car...

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/fox-news-d...

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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>their political ideology demands purity I wasn't aware Musk had one.

Of course he doesn’t, he just endorses republicans, selectively leaks information to help them, and attacks their enemies.

If that’s not the model of neutrality, then nothing is.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#94
post #66

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Academics don't resell the data to others. In fact, their existing agreements with Twitter requires their published datasets (for reproducibility) to be anonymized precisely to ensure they don't become a commercial goldmine. Given that most of the article is about the pricing tiers for academic use, based on marketing communications to universities, your comment seems strangely indifferent to the context of this news…

Academic work has all kinds of costs, why should data be free of charge?

As you say, Academics are pretty used to paying for access to data, services, material, etc., but $42k-per-month for limited access to Twitter sounds more like a "fuck off" price than anything else.

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#95
post #73

...Blackburn, however, says researchers will continue to find a way to scrutinize what’s happening on Twitter. “We’ve been mostly cut off from Facebook for years and we’ve continued to make progress,” he says. “It’s not like science is going to be held hostage by a guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts.”

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I assume this will still work with uBlock Origin et al. activated?

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#96
post #11

I'm not the greatest Musk fan but IMHO his approach to charge those who benefits from Twitter is spot on and I'm actually rooting for him to be able to find a viable business model which does not rely on selling my attention to highest bidder. If you are going to influence people, pay for the reach and If you are going to mine data, pay for the data. I guess the exact pricing can be adjusted according to the market n…

The difficulty is, people can still scrape the data. That data scraping is likely to cost Twitter more than the API did, as they have to serve up the full page.

Yes, you can try to block people doing that, but historically people haven't succeeded.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#97
post #73

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I assume this will still work with uBlock Origin et al. activated?

I assume so, but am not certain.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#98
post #73

...Blackburn, however, says researchers will continue to find a way to scrutinize what’s happening on Twitter. “We’ve been mostly cut off from Facebook for years and we’ve continued to make progress,” he says. “It’s not like science is going to be held hostage by a guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts.”

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Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#99

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> When does Twitter start paying it's users who produce the data? Why do those users choose to produce data for Twitter/on Twitter for free?

Because it's free to do so.

Then you can't really complain about not getting paid for it, can you?

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#100
post #78

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Academics don't resell the data to others. In fact, their existing agreements with Twitter requires their published datasets (for reproducibility) to be anonymized precisely to ensure they don't become a commercial goldmine. Given that most of the article is about the pricing tiers for academic use, based on marketing communications to universities, your comment seems strangely indifferent to the context of this news…

Why cant universities fund it with their billion dollar endowments?

There is literally only couple of US universities having that, for smaller universities 42k a month for a research or two doesn't make any financial sense at all. This price is just basically a huge gatekeeper to prevent most people using it.
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