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Related: Companies save billions of dollars by giving employees fake "manager" titles[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34641549 [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/salary-manager-jobs-fake-titles...
'assistant regional manager'
I just can't believe how idiotic such a thing is. It's like calling a person who uses a toaster a Toast Engineer with a salary of 300k.
-mlsu: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34884683
At this point the word "engineer" has lost its original meaning. Until there's a formal theory of how we can interact with LLMs and you make use of that in a systematic fashion, "prompt engineering" is really closer to "prompt artist."
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>You've got a huge blind spot if you think prompt engineer isn't already a thing. It may be a "thing", because generating BS is a viable business model and ChatGPT makes it more efficient. ..but I submit as a working hypothesis, that it is completely impossible to gain knowledge you do not already possess from a language model, no matter how clever your prompting. I'm very interested in counter-examples, but I have s…
I don't really understand what you're saying. Clearly the results one produces with the software has value, but you say it's all "BS." Does that just mean you don't like it, or what? If someone asks me to produce some concept art for a project they've just started, and I write some prompts to produce that concept art, what is "BS" about the art I produced? What does gaining knowledge have to do with it? Is Art Direct…
Sounds fun until I realized much of this will be requests to use GPT for stuff it isn't meant to be used for. That would constantly trigger me.
That presumes we know what it's meant to be used for. I'm not sure that we do.
In the end what we all value is what solves problems. Those who embrace AI tech and learn to use the tool and work around its flaws will solve more problems than those who don't. This includes coming up with a system to validate the work. Those who use the tool recklessly will create more problems than they solve.
What side are we on here? I've been in the industry for over two decades and I for one cannot wait to command the computer in complex ways in my natural language. I am not threatened by other people being able to do the same. The tool is just a tool. What you build with it is what will separate the "professionals" from the "hobbyists".
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That's so obviously false that I literally can't imagine how you could believe it. GPT-3 certainly isn't 100% accurate, but neither is it so perfectly unreliable that no one could ever get it to produce a relevant fact not in the prompt. And even if it were, it would probably still be potentially useful for learning languages.
> GPT-3 certainly isn't 100% accurate, but neither is it so perfectly unreliable that no one could ever get it to produce a relevant fact not in the prompt. I think I understand the sense in which you claim it produces relevant facts not in the prompt. It's not that we differ on easily observable behavior of the system. It's that I question if GPT-3 is "producing" these identifiable facts, and if the user is "produci…
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. That GPT-3 is just vomiting stuff up out of its training set and not producing any new knowledge? But that's totally irrelevant to the issue of whether it can transmit knowledge to a user, who presumably hasn't memorized the entire training set.
This isn't anything new. We've had prompt engineers for a long time now; we've just been calling them "SEO Specialists". The kind of person you'd hire to make sure your Amazon listing has all the necessary magical incantations to land on the first page of search results, that sort of thing. This is just the next incarnation of trying to shift the output of someone else's algorithm in your favor. Be wary of building a…
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It's just software. It takes skill and labor to achieve the outputs you want. Is someone who uses photoshop all day not an artist? Or someone who writes text for a compiler not a programmer? You've got a huge blind spot if you think prompt engineer isn't already a thing.
>You've got a huge blind spot if you think prompt engineer isn't already a thing. It may be a "thing", because generating BS is a viable business model and ChatGPT makes it more efficient. ..but I submit as a working hypothesis, that it is completely impossible to gain knowledge you do not already possess from a language model, no matter how clever your prompting. I'm very interested in counter-examples, but I have s…
Not true. Emergent abilities is an active research area in LLMs [0]. They even have pretty graphs on the topic.
[0] https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/11/characterizing-emergent-ph...