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An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

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Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#91

I just absolutely fail to see the issue with CGI porn, even of the underage variety (because let's face it, that's all anyone is going to care about when it comes to banning it). Trying to argue that fake pictures of non existent kids doing bad shit is somehow "child porn" is about as dumb as saying Saw (the movie) is an actual snuff film. Is it vulgar and offensive - of course. Is it child porn - no, because the per…

How do you train a model to produce pictures of children?

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#92

I am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was...…

Soooo... you seem to be aware that this is an unhealthy habit, and that AI-generated porn will make it worse. I could write something generic here about AI or porn vs. mental health but instead I'm going to probably sound judgmental. I'm not; you do you; your brains are made to be stimulated any way you want to stimulate them. But you said some things seemingly in distress that are big red flags. Stop reading now if…

I don't think so. The nakedness of a 10/10 virtual girl is not in the same league as the nakedness of a 4/10 real girl. That's not a gap that can be overcome by the virtual girl's nakedness getting better and better. As proof, I'm 100% certain that I would choose a relationship with a 4/10 real girl over a 10/10 virtual girl's nakedness without a second thought.

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wondering is "being seen forever" as big of a deal as it used to be? If you have nudes somewhere on the internet does anyone actually give a shit?

Nudes and porn are very different things. Also the answer is yes, there are people who actually give a shit about who they marry / date / hire for work

> there are people who actually give a shit about who they marry / date / hire for work

So are those who are not offended that their employee did some nude modeling or sex work are... careless or inconsiderate in some way?

Should hiring or dating include some kind of background check based on puritanical definitions of "moral character"?

Perhaps people who think that way should wear some kind of scarlet letter. That way I can be sure they'll never be involved in my hiring pipeline.

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

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This sort of thing makes me wonder about paraphilia’s that might emerge - images which might tweak some human reactions in a way that human bodies just can’t. Like those flowers that mimic female flies so well the males prefer them to actual female flies.

how'd that turn out for the flies?

Well, if the nature documentary I saw is to be believed, they eventually get tired of the plant not acting quite right and go find a real female fly. (IIRC it’s some sort of orchid)

Which I guess makes evolutionary sense - you want to use the fly for pollination, but you can’t be so sexy it completely gives up on procreation, or you run out of pollinators!

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#96

I am addicted to (human) pornography and when I first heard about AI porn, I vowed to myself to never watch it, because I knew it would be like heroin on steroids to my brain. Welp, curiosity got the better of me, and I gave in and decided to check it out, but not the anime type that the Techcrunch article seems to have as pixelated examples. Instead, I ordered some photorealistic AI porn from an artist and it was...…

The future is not Orwell and his "a boot stamping on a human face— forever." It's AI expertly pushing our little human psychological/emotional buttons forever. The future is going to be FILLED with AI hyper-trained to persuade us with beautiful people made from these models to do whatever the heck people controlling that AI want. Speaking of AI generated visual porn, I wonder why AI Dungeon, Replika and Character.AI…

I found an interview with the Replika guy. He said the AI was not safe when it did erotic stuff and that's why they shut it down. I wonder what that really means in detail. There are some deep philosophical questions under all this.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zaam/replika-ceo-ai-erotic...

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#97

To be honest, I kinda feel AI porn is actually more ethical than the current porn industry. Much like written or drawn porn, it does not rely on the objectification of actual people. Instead it can fill a niche without hurting anyone. There is the problem of it replacing real jobs, but this is not unique to the field. The main problem, in my eyes, is AI porn that mimics real people. This is the main place I'd like to…

In order to train it you need a dataset…

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#98
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I'm gonna ask something awful, but isn't this the end of child porn? It's sad but isn't it the least painful option? I wish it would then lead the people that need mental health to a professional, hell, couldn't we engineer an ai that progressively guides their misguided patterns to an acceptable level? (assuming such a thing exists)

It’s not awful because it has been addressed before. Sure, if you can create child porn at your demand there’s no reason to go look for the real thing, at least in theory. There are a couple of problems though. How would the model be trained? It has to process child faces. This is a huge red flag by itself. The second problem is that it might get more people addicted to child porn. If it becomes so easy to access who…

> The second problem is that it might get more people addicted to child porn.

Nah, the second problem is escalation.

The fear is that once you've burned out on fakes, you start looking for the real stuff (or physical encounters) to get your dopamine fix.

Re: An AI porn industry is emerging through Stable Diffusion

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Porn actors may feel differently if it’s their jobs/livelihoods at stake.

Most porn actors are young girls doing it a few times (as they are required to do more extreme things to stay relevant) and being seen forever. They also don't think about how easy it will be to identify them in the future as face recognition/matching gets even cheaper.

Your use of the word “girls” implies that the subjects are under the age of legal consent which would classify what you’re talking about as child sex abuse material not porn. If you’re talking about porn you’re talking about people of legal age to consent. Making them women. The difference between those two words is night and day. Legally, ethically and in terms of classification.

In this discussion your choice of words is very important.

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