I've read the article a few times and I still don't know what Google will do..
Bard and new AI features in Search
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#92It's challenging to take a CEO seriously who lacks enough self-awareness to un-ironically use the term "journey". Similarly, just open it up for everyone to use, I'm using ChatGPT now, ship your product, don't just write a blog post about it.
ChatGPT didn't just "exist" one day. OpenAI made a half-dozen models before getting to GPT-3, and even had demos like Talk to Transformer freely available for anyone to play with long before ChatGPT was in development. Just because you didn't hear about it until the news got there doesn't mean it's not a journey.
Would you consider Google to be mid-journey?
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#93The blog post is an example of why when you go through a number of edits and additions from various internal groups, marketing, legal, compliance etc. you end up with a message that's a lot of words but not a lot of information for any key audience. I went through the article 3 times thinking I missed the link to try out Bard, get some sense of timeline, roll-out plan...nothing. Come on Google...
Have you ever tried utilize one of their APIs..?
It's an atrocious experience. They're leaving so much money on the table.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems like a very reactionary move. ChatGPT went viral, and now they have to rush something to market to try and compete. So of course the product doesn't exist yet, but they've had enough time to put together a project plan and some mockups. It's not a great position to be in.
i don't think anybody knows how to monetize it. really it's kinda a public service, maybe these models should be run that way?
Just picture monetizing it via embedding slant onto the answers it provides like how Alexa suggest purchases but in a way that users can barely just notice...
Or purchasing "market share space" on it in the same way that companies buy shelf space on supermarkets to place their products in...
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#95> Soon, you’ll see AI-powered features in Search Despite this blog obviously being written for Wall St, this line is key. This is why anyone is going to struggle to compete with Google in AI. Google Search is used so widely and its taxonomy of meaning so vast already that once they flip this on they’ll be unstoppable. (Assuming any rate of improvement whatsoever as we search.) I’m not mentioning all other learning da…
Yes, but will their revenue survive flipping that switch or will that kill the golden Adsense goose?
Fair question.
Depending on how slimy they’re willing to be I’d argue there’s even more scope to push ads when “advising” user through a grey area vs straight up keyword search.
Think going several steps ahead of initial q, increased trust and reliance on responses, multiple follow up questions with more ads etc.
I’m just envisaging this based on my time with ChatGPT these last few weeks.
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#96The blog post is an example of why when you go through a number of edits and additions from various internal groups, marketing, legal, compliance etc. you end up with a message that's a lot of words but not a lot of information for any key audience. I went through the article 3 times thinking I missed the link to try out Bard, get some sense of timeline, roll-out plan...nothing. Come on Google...
It seems like a very reactionary move. ChatGPT went viral, and now they have to rush something to market to try and compete. So of course the product doesn't exist yet, but they've had enough time to put together a project plan and some mockups. It's not a great position to be in.
Exactly. With their partner Anthropic's bot "Claude" they have something on the same level as ChatGTP already though.
You can test Claude on ios with the app "poe" (the other two bots in the app are some sort of chatGTP and OpenAI based).
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#97Re: Bard and new AI features in Search
#98Lotus 123, Borland and Wordperfect were at the top of the software world. They failed to make the transition to GUIs/Windows. Microsoft missed the arrival of the web. Microsoft also missed the mobile revolution and ended up with zero mobile operating system market share. Internet Explorer, having vanquished Netscape, declared "job done" and stopped developing the web browser further, only to be cast to irrelevance fo…
Google was already next when they missed the social media boat. That said, Microsoft is still the second most valuable company in the world a decade after missing out on mobile, so it doesn't really seem like a big deal.
I certainly didn't kill Microsoft, but it's tens of billions of dollars they didn't get. It's significant, even at Microsoft's scale.
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#99Bard is such a funny name. I tried to, no pun intended, google it and it autocorrected to brad.
Should've named it brad.
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#100The blog post is an example of why when you go through a number of edits and additions from various internal groups, marketing, legal, compliance etc. you end up with a message that's a lot of words but not a lot of information for any key audience. I went through the article 3 times thinking I missed the link to try out Bard, get some sense of timeline, roll-out plan...nothing. Come on Google...
It seems like a very reactionary move. ChatGPT went viral, and now they have to rush something to market to try and compete. So of course the product doesn't exist yet, but they've had enough time to put together a project plan and some mockups. It's not a great position to be in.
Google was in this position in relation to Apple and the iPhone, and that worked out all right for them. First-mover advantage isn't the be-all, end-all.