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Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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> When he asked why he was non-inclusive, Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees and that he was “ableist” for commenting on other employees’ “walking pace.” Wait, what...?

You know how it is.

"Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense."

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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that is because HR exists to protect the company, not the employee. it would be a big media storm if that aforementioned reverse thing happened.

> that is because HR exists to protect the company, not the employee I kind of get annoyed when this statement is bandied about. Not because it's false, but because it's brought up in cases like this one where if HR were actually doing their job well, they would have protected the company by doing a real investigation. That is, one of the primary purposes of HR is "keep the company from getting sued." But, in many ca…

But aren't you just repeating what GP said? HR protecting the employee is coincidental, not their primary goal.

From an employee perspective it is a gamble to trust HR to help them, even if HR were doing their job.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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You'd think, but then you read stories like this, about people who have worked 16 years at Google but still need the job badly: https://www.businessinsider.com/laid-off-engineer-says-googl...

That article doesn't seem to say he needed the job badly.

Not in those words, no. But if you're that resentful about being laid off, and talking to the media about what a cosmic injustice it is rather than, "oh, well, I guess I can start spending some of the interest on the fortune I built up from 16 years at Google", then yes, you do still need the job badly.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#94

These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

I have also seen first-hand what happens when someone makes false allegations, and in this story so far we don't know what may or may not be false. I can see why the media would share this story, because it gets readers' attention and has all that sensational gossip-friendly content. At least they remark on having tried to reach the defendants for comment, though that could mean anything.

The problem is that false allegations can be extraordinarily damaging in the short-term, though hopefully the injury evaporates in the long-term as truth takes over.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

> Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. Instead of an ad hominem dogwhistle, please describe how the paper's political leanings could bias its reporting here. At face value, it's workplace sexual assault allegations with a power imbalance.

> Instead of an ad hominem dogwhistle

I don't think that's what "dogwhistle" means. IIUC, dog-whistling is surreptitiously sending a message to some readers, but having plausible deniability and/or non-recognition for the rest of the readers.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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In all honesty, if these things had happened to me, I would've kept quiet since most people won't believe a 20-something male. I was in high school when two of the girls (who were considered hot in our class) grouped me and rubbed their breasts against my back. When I told one of the lady teachers about the issue, she thought I was crazy and making things up.

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This is a terrible take. With your thought process anyone who is viewed as attractive is able to criminally interact with someone and, rather than viewed in a criminal/negative light, it should be taken as a positive experience?

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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I dunno where you all are working but I've never worked on any software team that was exclusively white and male.

Of course, statistically speaking, it was probably only 80-90% white male.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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That article doesn't seem to say he needed the job badly.

Not in those words, no. But if you're that resentful about being laid off, and talking to the media about what a cosmic injustice it is rather than, "oh, well, I guess I can start spending some of the interest on the fortune I built up from 16 years at Google", then yes, you do still need the job badly.

Hm? If you need work and are laid off you don't get mad: you get another job.

You get mad if you were working for prestige, connections, or power-- things you can't just replace by getting another job.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

> irreparable damage

This will slide off her like an over-easy egg off a teflon pan.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

What was the proof? Very fortunate indeed!

We had a gaming party at work on a Friday afternoon, and I happened to have recorded my games. Reviewing it, I found I did play against her (and 2 others) in a free-for all. But it was clear she just fabricated the events. Funnily enough while I was playing her, I didn't even know it was her (it was a woman I barely knew and only had spoken to a couple of times).

Anyway, presented with the actual recording she dropped the entire thing and yet managed to have absolutely zero personal or professional repercussions.

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