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Re: Official Warning: Zero3K

#91

While I'm sure it's annoying, this post is not a good look and reads rather unhinged. I'm also not sure what it's meant to accomplish other than venting.

Agreed. Remove all hyperbole and the crime here is... sending too many pull requests? I'm skeptical.

Re: Official Warning: Zero3K

#92
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what do you think happens when you make yourself lost contact with these people? Well, having been 'compartmentalized' earlier in life and never receiving any help or social training, they continue to perpetually abuse other people. It's really not his or her job to fix abusers.

>It's really not his or her job to fix abusers. most societies believe that each individual must contribute to some degree. It's being lost, but for most societies historically the mentally ill were the burden of the immediate family. Now we see the effects of the mental illness affecting society-at-large, it stands to reason that the entirety of the affected population is now somewhat responsible for making their ow…

> If I walked past litter on the ground in my home-town, I wouldn't say "Hey, not my job." and walk past it, I would pick it up for the betterment of my town.

This is this and that is that. Litter won't stab you, whereas I've had a friend get stabbed by a mentally ill person who asked for their restaurant leftovers, and were given them, only to then do just that. (Which is a bit different than what the OP is talking about, but you mentioned mental illness in society in general, so it seems fair to bring it up.)

Re: Official Warning: Zero3K

#93
It's fascinating how reading the post makes me think, "well, it's one person's side of the story, and I don't really know how bad the behavior is," but then this HN comment thread, when compared to typical HN discourse, appears to be solid evidence for the claims in the post. (turn on showdead and read some flagged messages to see what I mean)

Re: Official Warning: Zero3K

#94
Last ticket I can find where they’re mentioned: https://jira.reactos.org/browse/CORE-17868

Anywhere they’re mentioned: https://jira.reactos.org/browse/CORE-17499?jql=comment%20~%2...

Issues created by them: https://jira.reactos.org/browse/CORE-17492?jql=reporter%20in...

I guess the original account was banned somewhere in March 2021? But at a quick glance I can’t quite see what the problem is.

Re: Official Warning: Zero3K

#96
I have mixed feelings on calling him out by name. It sounds like the person is going through tough times. This obsessive behaviour doesn't describe someone who's living a happy, fulfilling life. The bug reports might be his flawed way to reach out and be part of the community. I'm not arguing for people to enable his negative behaviour. I just wish there was another solution than the nuclear option: this public warning might severely affect his mental state and career prospects. If he lacks any support network, this could mean years of downward spiral and isolation. Would you consider adding a sort of "way out" clause to soften the blow? Something along the lines of waiting for an apology and his public promise not to harrass other people?

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#97
post #76

There are some people that are so divergent from understanding and being able to perform or at least emulate normal social behaviour that they become harmful and problematic. I watched one, quite closely, develop through high school. I can still hear his smug “nah” any time you said something he didn’t agree with. Well, not “agree with” but “that he knew to be universally correct.” Ultimately he ended up unemployable…

>I think what I learned from the experience is at some point you’ve got to compartmentalize harmful people from your groups and inevitably a growing number of segments of society, even if that feels wrong in some way. It’s more wrong to let them perpetually abuse people. this strikes me as similar to the concept of being for life imprisonment over the spending of resources towards rehabilitation. To throw people to t…

>this strikes me as similar to the concept of being for life imprisonment over the spending of resources towards rehabilitation.

Even societies "without" life imprisonment have legal ways of putting people away for life if they're deemed too incompatible with society. Take Norway; longest sentence is 21 years, but for especially vile crimes, that sentence can be extended at the end of the 21 years if the convict is found to not have been rehabilitated.

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#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But also, doxxing is totally acceptable to protect people from threats including harassment. We are well past the era where we maintained the fantasy that the internet was separate from real life. People who are acting out online sometimes also act dangerous IRL and it is therefore prudent to figure out who they are IRL if they've proven to be bad actors online.

yeah, this whole idea that "doxxing" is a universal harm needs to be corrected. not exposing people's real-world identities is a courtesy we obey to protect each other from harassment. if it becomes a way to protect the harassers, then we've lost the point. nobody has a natural right to anonymity, and if your actions are causing real harm then you should expect some of the real-world consequences that come from havin…

Your position is effectively “it’s not harassment when we harass someone, because we’re not the harassers”.

Doxxing is an escalation intended to cause real harm in the real world.

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#99
post #66

Going to be fun when these are bots that use ChatGPT to harass online communities (if this already isn't that).

Or the other way around, bots sucking the time and energy out of these people. Possibly even while others grabbed a bowl of popcorn.

That's kind of what I meant, it will just be believable enough to make people think it's a real conversation but maintainers waste time on it and it really doesn't go anywhere.

On the other had, as much as I've had fun with ChatGPT, it does really seem quite a long ways off being able to understand context and write a meaningful response that people would believe is a real person.

Re: Official Warning: Zero3K

#100

There are some people that are so divergent from understanding and being able to perform or at least emulate normal social behaviour that they become harmful and problematic. I watched one, quite closely, develop through high school. I can still hear his smug “nah” any time you said something he didn’t agree with. Well, not “agree with” but “that he knew to be universally correct.” Ultimately he ended up unemployable…

>I think what I learned from the experience is at some point you’ve got to compartmentalize harmful people from your groups and inevitably a growing number of segments of society, even if that feels wrong in some way. It’s more wrong to let them perpetually abuse people.

You need to ban abusive people at the first possible time (after you have established that they are abusive and not, e.g just ESL who learned from an old TV show/book). The more moderation a community has, the better the community will be.

If somebody has Asbergers and can't adjust, ban them too. The why doesn't matter (unless it is easily correctable), the how does.

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