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Re: New Mac Mini

#91

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Oof - once you bump the base model to 16GB RAM and 1TB of storage it doubles the price Apparently Mini RAM hasn't been user upgradable since the 2014 model https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205041#2020

The 2018 model has socketed RAM.

And could do 64GB too.

Re: New Mac Mini

#92
post #7

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

Another anecdote: I have a M1 air and an m1 iMac both with 8GB and have never run into a problem. I think 8gb is still the sweet spot for casual users.

16GB M1 mini here. I've had memory issues exactly zero times. Current memory usage is at 15%.

I've had games running with full on tab-hoarded browsers and IDEs open among with any other crap I haven't bothered to shut down.

Re: New Mac Mini

#93
post #45

Why get the M2 Pro Mini when you can just opt for Mac Studio with M1 Max? They're roughly in the same price bracket.

That's my current dilemma, but now I think I'll just wait for the Studio with M2 Max.

Re: New Mac Mini

#94

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Why take away consumer choice? They've always been available with at least 16GB. I'm perfectly happy with 8GB on my M1 and it was fine on my 2016 13" Pro.

Because the alternative is to add literally a few dollars to the bill of materials for the machine, double the memory, and give everyone a better experience. This also means the machine will last longer and likely not end up in a landfill as soon. $200 to add 8GB of memory is _insane_, and framing it as "consumer choice" is bad when consumers are being gouged so badly. It's literally at least a 20x markup on the whol…

But this is an M series system, it's not running of off-the-shelf Kingston DDR4.

Re: New Mac Mini

#95

Is the RAM and SSD upgradeable? The baseline model is 8GB / 256GB, and very reasonably priced at $600. Upgrading to 24GB is a whopping $400, and to 1TB is another $400. The $700 baseline seems reasonable. $1500 for a minimum usable machine seems more than a little excessive.

As I mentioned here[0], it is worth considering using an external, upgradeable SSD instead of paying Apple's exorbitant prices for more internal storage on a Mac mini. For a laptop, you would definitely want to upgrade the internal storage.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34413582

Re: New Mac Mini

#97
post #41

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16Gb is minimum on M1 I found. I hit problems on my 8Gb machine regularly. It’ll work fine but you do get heavy pauses. The thing to be careful of is if your custom config breaks then the turnaround to fix it can be a couple of months. Ergo only buy stock configs. That makes the market somewhat less friendly.

Same here. I've heard people argue that 8gb is enough for web browsing, and while that is true , I genuinely struggle to imagine a use-case that doesn't max out the memory within 30 minutes of usage.

I have the 8G M1 and my typical use-case is building huge notebooks in Observable, including one I’m looking at right now that has over 100 million datapoints loaded from a USGS web service into hundreds of separate plots and it’s fine. I’ve never run into the supposed limits.

I also have over 200 PDFs loaded in preview in the background, related to a law suit I’m researching. Still no issues.

ETA: I’m likely to replace my m1 with the m2 since the m2 gets +30% scores in common web benchmarks and heavy JavaScript hacks are my main thing. That should bring it up to par with my Linux box that has the top of the line Intel CPU.

Re: New Mac Mini

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No, it's $599, with a load of extra customised options that allow people to add what they want, you cannot even buy this one in a store, you have to do a custom order, your regular user, walking into an electronic store will buy a base model. You've specced it up with every customisation possible, that 999.999999% of buyers won't do and won't need and then complain at the cost in an effort to bash Apple,

I'm not trying to bash Apple in bad faith, but let's be real the $599 model is inadequate. 8GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD in 2023. There's plenty out there on the M1 Mac mini's 8GB being a bad idea even for casual users. I had an 8GB M1 mini when it first came out and returned it because it was swapping to the SSD with like 3 apps open (nothing like an IDE or Docker or Adobe X Y Z). I just find it humorous that you can s…

> let's be real the $599 model is inadequate

For most of the folks on HN, that's probably true. We're an edge case.

For my parents? A Mac mini is gonna be more than enough. There are folks happilly using Chromebooks with a tenth of the power.

Re: New Mac Mini

#99
post #13

Is the RAM and SSD upgradeable? The baseline model is 8GB / 256GB, and very reasonably priced at $600. Upgrading to 24GB is a whopping $400, and to 1TB is another $400. The $700 baseline seems reasonable. $1500 for a minimum usable machine seems more than a little excessive.

Nope, soldered.

Nope, in the same package as the CPU and GPU.

Re: New Mac Mini

#100
post #7

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

Oof - once you bump the base model to 16GB RAM and 1TB of storage it doubles the price Apparently Mini RAM hasn't been user upgradable since the 2014 model https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205041#2020

You can walk into an apple store and buy 8GB models all day long but 16GB models are special orders...this has always seemed sketchy to me
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