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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by lost_tourist » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:13 PM UTC

greyw wrote: post #63

karmakaze wrote: post #34

The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. There have to be other LCD panel makers out there. Either their customers don't care and/or the company doesn't care to make a better laptop.

Interesting. For me the screen needs to be 16:9 or 16:10 to be even considered.

that's the same for me. I tend to have "two" windows open at most times and that works well for me on my 15" laptop (ancient by most HN standards). I've looked at the ultrawide and 4:3 screens and I'm good with the current "standard" form factor when I can't get to my 3 monitor setup at home.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by jesuscript » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:13 PM UTC

coder543 wrote: post #16

driverdan wrote: post #6

Still only 1920x1080. Come on, give us decent resolution screens already!

It is a 144Hz display, which makes it significantly more interesting than an average 1080p display. 60Hz just feels so stuttery these days. But, I agree that a higher resolution would be nice, and if I'm being completely honest... I would want OLED. Tons of affordable OLED laptops have come to market over the past year.

Why does 144hz matter to you if you aren't playing games? This is not a gaming machine. You absolutely will not notice the difference for non-gaming tasks between 60hz to 80hz/100hz/120hz/144hz/244hz.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by xbar » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:14 PM UTC

3np wrote: post #55

yoyohello13 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, the difference between 1080p and 1440p on a 14in screen is barely perceptible to me. I'd rather have the extra battery life.

Try Chinese in smaller font sizes...

Thank you for a lesson in empathy.

I would be satisfied with a taller 1920x1200 display but maybe you still wouldn't be.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by lost_tourist » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:15 PM UTC

RosanaAnaDana wrote: post #61

I'm on the Serval 76 with a 2070. I don't really care if they are going team red again. I'll be trying a different manufacturer next time.

this is in addition to intel, so what's your point? You don't like system76 hardware at all and will be switching?

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by lost_tourist » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:15 PM UTC

inetknght wrote: post #53

quasarj wrote: post #45

God damn that is one ugly motherfucker. Why in the world is anyone still squeezing useless numpads onto laptops???

> Why in the world is anyone still squeezing useless numpads onto laptops??? Excuse me?! I will never buy a laptop without a numpad! I use numpads every day ! The better question is why is anyone still squeezing a useless touchpad onto laptops???

We can have both. I think we have the tech still. Not sure why OP is angry lol

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by droptablemain » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:16 PM UTC

I've bought a couple of laptops from System76. They charge outrageous prices and and shipping costs for even the smallest part; other than that, getting parts for their rebadged Clevo machines can be a bit challenging because you often have to order from China, so it takes a while.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by gjmacd » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:17 PM UTC

Meh. I won't switch to a Linux laptop until I can get a reasonable resolution on the screen that matches my MBP's output for a reasonable price.

I can't understand why I can't get a reasonably good priced laptop with just Linux that doesn't match the video resolution of a MBP.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by coder543 » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:18 PM UTC

jesuscript wrote: post #92

coder543 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a 144Hz display, which makes it significantly more interesting than an average 1080p display. 60Hz just feels so stuttery these days. But, I agree that a higher resolution would be nice, and if I'm being completely honest... I would want OLED. Tons of affordable OLED laptops have come to market over the past year.

Why does 144hz matter to you if you aren't playing games? This is not a gaming machine. You absolutely will not notice the difference for non-gaming tasks between 60hz to 80hz/100hz/120hz/144hz/244hz.

> You absolutely will not notice the difference

If you make absolutes like that, then everything I could respond with is automatically “wrong”, so that’s not a great conversation opener.

My smartphone is not a gaming monitor either, but 120Hz is hugely noticeable. My windows desktop is using a 144Hz monitor. I had a 120Hz MacBook Pro for awhile. I’m familiar with how I experience high refresh rate on different types of devices.

You may not care, and that’s fine, but what’s the point of asking why I care and then telling me in no certain terms that I won’t? And how do you know if I would be gaming on this or not? Valve has put immense effort into making Linux viable for gaming. If you’re instead trying to say the monitor’s response times suck, how do you know that already?

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by Mikeb85 » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:18 PM UTC

trelane wrote: post #67

umvi wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a System76 galp5. It's fairly thin and lightweight. I have mixed feelings about it. Linux support is good. But Windows support is pretty bad. All available drivers are here: https://github.com/system76/windows-drivers but even after installing everything in that repo listed under galp5, I still have a ton of issues including laptop not going to sleep when lid is closed, touchpad occasionally not working until…

I'd recommend using Windows under a VM, for this and myriad other reasons. But it really underscores the point that Linux and Windows hardware really are different.

> But it really underscores the point that Linux and Windows hardware really are different.

You mean it underscores the fact that Windows actually has terrible hardware support and the only reason it runs on anything is because OEMs put in work...

Linux runs on most Windows hardware OOTB.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by dfghjkjhg » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 6:20 PM UTC

too little too late.

since 13months ago, HP sells a elite book G9 for 2k, which have the best combo configuration at, gasp, wallmart for 800... eigth hundred dollars.

same cpu, but PRO version. metal and plastic body. scissor waterproof keyboard. usb c charging (system76 is barrel), 2x sodimm ram slots (system76 is soldered, note thay amd zen3+ pro mighty allow ECC ram in a laptop for the first time! so i want slots), the battery have 18Wh less, but it is also 20pct ligther. and all hardware is fully supported with 5.8+ kernel.

I always try to buy from linux-first-vendors, but I still deal with a librem13 that have sevral keys fail on their keyboard and support is ghosting me. even had to super-glue the hinge latelly. so awful :(