English as She Is Spoke (1884) [pdf]

Post by andrew_ » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 12:40 AM UTC

kwhitefoot wrote: post #65

DiggyJohnson wrote: post #4

From the Wikipedia: > O novo guia da conversação em portuguez e inglez , commonly known by the name English as She Is Spoke , is a 19th-century book written by Pedro Carolino, with some editions crediting José da Fonseca as a co-author. It was intended as a Portuguese–English conversational guide or phrase book. However, because the "English" translations provided are usually inaccurate or unidiomatic, it is regarded…

> "raining buckets" Really? Which part of the UK does that come from. Where I come from *Nort Wilts.) the related phrase would be "It's bucketing down!" but I've never heard anyone say "It's raining buckets!".

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 12:44 AM UTC

nerdponx wrote: post #62

raffraffraff wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that pretty much how the Americanism "I could care less" originated?

Yes. Along similar lines, expect a spelling convergence of "wary" and "weary" in the next 5-10 years due to so many people not knowing the difference between the two, not bothering to check, and perpetuating confusion by using the wrong one in their own writing.

Post by anthk » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 1:07 AM UTC

xdennis wrote: post #83

WalterBright wrote: post #20

One of my Iranian colleagues back when I worked in an office had many entertaining phrases, like: "I go make some shoppings" "Time for go" Naturally, the rest of the gang picked them up and used them. I still say them to the consternation of others.

> One of my Iranian colleagues back when I worked in an office had many entertaining phrases, like: > "I go make some shoppings" As a Romanian living in the London, I hear English mistakes from various nationalities and I'm surprised how similar some are to Romanian, even when there's no connection. In this case, in Romanian we also word-for-word say "to make shoppings". It often feels like English is the odd man out…

Post by vharuck » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 1:25 AM UTC

xdennis wrote: post #83

WalterBright wrote: post #20

One of my Iranian colleagues back when I worked in an office had many entertaining phrases, like: "I go make some shoppings" "Time for go" Naturally, the rest of the gang picked them up and used them. I still say them to the consternation of others.

> One of my Iranian colleagues back when I worked in an office had many entertaining phrases, like: > "I go make some shoppings" As a Romanian living in the London, I hear English mistakes from various nationalities and I'm surprised how similar some are to Romanian, even when there's no connection. In this case, in Romanian we also word-for-word say "to make shoppings". It often feels like English is the odd man out…

Post by raincom » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 1:48 AM UTC

agentwiggles wrote: post #42

WalterBright wrote: post #20

One of my Iranian colleagues back when I worked in an office had many entertaining phrases, like: "I go make some shoppings" "Time for go" Naturally, the rest of the gang picked them up and used them. I still say them to the consternation of others.

In a similar vein, "do the needful" has become so entrenched in some of my friends' vernacular that it's now used almost completely unironically. Also, "like such as," from the old "Miss Teen USA" viral video, has stuck in my craw to the point that its use is unconscious (though still intended humorously).