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Who invented the thumb drive?

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Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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In 2022, can Windows (or Linux?) defend themselves against an USB drive that contains a virus?

If you go to some service that offers prints and use your usb drive there, Im like 100% sure you will get multiple viruses.

I dont understand why the operating systems dont seem to be able to defend themselves against it. Also in the past the drives had a "read only" mode, nowadays this is hard to find.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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Funny, for me it helps replacing another device that I canned twenty years ago: the printer. Every time I need to print something to feed some troglodite's requirement, I put a pdf in a pincho and go down the street to the call shop. 20 cents is absurdly expensive, but much less than maintaining a printer for one paper sheet a month at most.

Oh I remember the era of giving your thumb drives all possible viruses every time you needed to print. I was recently pleasantly surprised that the shop with a printer down the street refuses to take any USBs and only prints what you email them.

last time I had to print passport they were asking me to send email. This is such a ridiculous thing to be honest from the privacy point of view.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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I'm surprised that the market for this is hot. Who is still buying USB sticks or SD cards? I haven't in quite a while, because I don't know who to trust anymore: cheaper variants are likely to be those counterfeits with hacked metadata that advertise having 4-10x the capacity they have[0], and more expensive ones are a crapshoot wrt. performance. In recent years, for the occasional need to physically move some files,…

They've been popular around here for listening to music in your car for a very long time. Modern cars usually accept USB sticks as is, but there aren't many modern cars here since we're mostly using 10-15 year old leftovers from more developed countries. So people have been using cheap Chinese USB-to-AM-radio converters like this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004771224597.html (first result on aliexpress,…

Oh, I forgot about those. People still use those where I live (Poland), though Bluetooth streaming is becoming more popular. But it doesn't mean they're necessarily buying new sticks - 10 year old ones work just fine.

Or, some do as I do, and just play music straight from the phone speakers.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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I am the proud owner of an 8MB IBM branded DiskOnKey flash drive. Plugging it into my linux system, it throws a lot of errors, but I do have a ext2 filesystem on it. I can mount it and find the little 'hello world' text file I put in there last June :)

8 MB..and here I'm sitting, filling a whopping 1 TB USB-storage with ISO-files for live-system, most probably bigger than a whole PC had available, at the time DiskOnKey was sold. That was just 20 Years ago. It's those little things which reminds me of how insanely fast technology moved in my lifetime. Who knows where we will be in 20 years...

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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I'm surprised that the market for this is hot. Who is still buying USB sticks or SD cards? I haven't in quite a while, because I don't know who to trust anymore: cheaper variants are likely to be those counterfeits with hacked metadata that advertise having 4-10x the capacity they have[0], and more expensive ones are a crapshoot wrt. performance. In recent years, for the occasional need to physically move some files,…

I still use them regularly, and will buy one if one breaks or something like that. I use cloud storage most of the time but frankly I don't trust it completely for privacy as well as access reasons, and my storage needs would be pretty huge, so I backup files on a flash drive as a kind of second backup. I also use external SDD drives, but only periodically as they take up much more space and I don't lug them around. I can fit a flash drive in my coat pocket when I'm traveling, and so forth and so on.

I guess I just like redundancy, having control over my own physical storage, have a sort of backup routine (cloud for super frequent temporary storage, flash for less frequent more capacity, and SDD for even less frequent even higher capacity) and flash drives are super portable. I tend to buy them in the biggest fastest format I can, and pay extra for a brand name from a vendor I trust.

I suppose I could use my phone; I hadn't thought of that, but I like to leave as much space as possible for stuff on there, and I'd still not want some backup for that.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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> Who is still buying ... SD cards? Photographers.

3D Printers

That's one application that never made sense to me. It's like an idea to use SD cards with paper printers - you'd want to connect directly with a cable, or hook it up to LAN/WLAN, on the first available opportunity.

I get that 10 years ago, back when I was in this space, this was a consequence of DIY builds being Arduino-based - SD cards were the easiest form of durable storage to work with, and the alternative was streaming G-code over USB, which tended to cause unreliable prints (my favorite example was a 3D printer builder and a popularizer in our local Hackerspace, who figured out he can't leave a print job running and give the computer to his kid to play videogames on, because any larger load would slow G-code transmission rate, throw off timings, and completely ruin the print). But I would think these days the printers would be built with some on-board buffer storage and network connectivity. ESP32 is a thing.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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It should also be noted that one of the reasons thumb drives took off when they did was not just due to USB.. as technically USB has been around for a few years and there were things like CF card readers coming on the market, and other flash storage readers a few years earlier.. so why did it take until later? Because Win 95 and Win 98 did not have plug and play drivers for USB mass storage devices, at all. I think i…

98SE still needed driver installation for every stick. It was WinME that included the first mass-storage generic class drivers.

These were then backported to 98SE, and pretty much every vintagecomputing enthusiast with a 98 box is running this despite the anachronism, because authenticity is just such a massive PITA.

https://vetusware.com/download/Universal%20USB%20Mass%20Stor...

In case you're in the market for such a hack. :)

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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I can tell I'm getting older by the number of articles I read that take time to describe 'history' of things that seem obvious since I lived through them, like the explanation of how 3.5" high density 'Floppy disks' held up to 1.44MB. Like... "I know... oh god some people don't know that."

I mean to add, the article says that thumb drives are still hot and the market will grow by billions a year more in a few years, but... I haven't used a thumb drive in years. The only time I actually went to look for one was to plug it into a shitty digital picture frame, and that one would also accept SD cards.

Try getting screenshots or other media off a PS5.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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> The biggest deal for these taking off was that they just worked on Windows without any special drivers or messing around. It made them appear magic. Uh? I had to install drivers to make them work. So I could not just bring one with me and assume I'd be able to read it wherever I went.

When was this? I recall carrying a USB stick with a bootable image in the early 2000s because it was reasonable to assume BIOS support for reading from USB. I also remember carrying a separate stick with "portable apps" that I could plug in and run on any Windows computer I happened to find myself using.

I believe that Windows ME was the first (non NT based) windows with out-of-the-box support for USB MSC, though 98 probably got it in a service pack at some point to support it. Certainly in 1999 there was a good chance that a USB stick would not work in a computer. By the time XP was common, USB sticks worked everywhere.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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It's like floppies at the late 00's. You never need them, except for those 5 or 6 fringe use cases that nobody else has (everybody has some 5 or 6 of them). If our computers were actually able to connect with each other, we would be using phones for everything already. But they can't, and phones are so user hostile that it's not obvious that you can even read your data in any way.

By the late 00's you were as likely to have a Zip drive for smaller (100mb) exchanges... if it weren't for the excessive licensing fees for the disks, the fate of the devices might have been a lot different. I really didn't consider thumb drives worth my time until they started getting over 256mb or so, I think it was also after USB3 was a thing, but it's a bit muddied in my memory.

Not everybody had a Zip drive and having to transport the entire drive added a lot of bulk. By the time USB 3 hit the scene we were well beyond 256mb. The original iPod Shuffle was basically a USB 2.0 512MB flash drive with an MP3 player bolted on and that was $100 in 2005. I think by then 256MB was probably under $50.
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