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Re: The “Oscar movie” is dying

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Post by danem »

trts wrote: post #65

Arguably many "Oscar movies" are not that great. There are often good films nominated but I am always surprised to look back post-1980s or 90s and see how many fairly mediocre films, many of which have since receded from critical awareness, have won "Best Picture" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Picture

Which films are you referring to? I wouldn't say that an Oscar nomination is definitive proof of quality, but it certainly is a strong signal of quality, which can't be said about similar award shows (Grammys).

Re: The “Oscar movie” is dying

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Post by raydiatian »

bitwize wrote: post #72
raydiatian wrote: post #14

I mean, one part of the problem I see at a local level is Black Panther 2 is currently occupying 50% of available projectors at all of my local movie theatres. I’m sort of just waiting and hoping the silly capeshit phenomenon will die out already. I think we need to see that the cinematic universe concept was a novelty and is extremely difficult to execute, especially when it’s driven by soulless profiteering. I mean…

I used to not take people who grouse about capeshit too seriously. I would go okay, maybe this whole superhero thing is starting to get played out, but I'll go see the next Marvel just to be sure. Up until Captain Marvel (2019), the Marvel films were solidly entertaining if not great, and very respectful of the characters. There were still some Marvel films like that after that, but most of Phase IV has been a hard s…

Agree on all points.

Avengers Endgame had its visible flaws that I was straight up willing to forgive because the seams had just started to rip. Phase 4 just feels like Disney-owned Marvel going

“And for my next trick, uh, uhhhhh, uhhhhhhhh, here’s a twerking She-Hulk? Hello fellow kids.”

Maverick made me finally go watch Top Gun.

Re: The “Oscar movie” is dying

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Post by verdenti »

jedberg wrote: post #70

During the pandemic a few movies that were supposed to be in theaters launched as expensive paid streams (mostly Disney, but also stuff like Bill and Ted). I gladly paid for every one of them. My wife and I used to go to the movies every weekend, sometimes twice, before we had kids. After we had kids we went to theater maybe three times. I was perfectly happy to pay $30 to watch a movie in my house, where I can watch…

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Re: The “Oscar movie” is dying

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Post by [deleted] »

DeetrixDotter wrote: post #40
0x445442 wrote: post #31

I don’t want to spend my entertainment dollars subjecting myself to political gaslighting. I want to be entertained by a good story. Sadly, this seems to be an insurmountable hurdle for Hollywood at the moment.

Nothing quite breaks the immersion for me like having so many gay and interracial couples crammed into the cast that I end up sitting there wondering if there is any place on Earth that's anything like the "normal" town Hollywood is presenting to me.

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Re: The “Oscar movie” is dying

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Post by gumby »

Waterluvian wrote: post #73
jfengel wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an actor myself, I find that the Oscar bait is often the "Academy Award for the Most Acting". It has become a cliche that you seek an Oscar by playing a highly damaged character with obvious quirks. More subtle performances are usually passed over, even though I consider them more challenging. They're often nominated, but rarely win. Which is fine, since those kinds of films are usually not going to attract big au…

I cannot find a single accolade for J.K. Simmons' role in The Accountant. Heck, I don't even care to evaluate an entire role: that hallway scene[1] is seared into my head and that alone deserves an award if we're going to be giving out awards. Stephen Root has countless memorable scenes if not entire characters. They're not "acting a lot" or playing highly damaged, complex characters. But they're absolutely nailing t…

He's an underrated actor in general, finally getting some starring roles.

Re: The “Oscar movie” is dying

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Post by pcthrowaway »

I'm astounded that this article doesn't mention what to me seems like a no-brainer: We're in the golden age of television. People don't want to watch 10, unconnected movies now. They want 10-20 hours of a continuous story. Netflix, Apple TV, Prime, and other streaming platforms have been delivering a quality experience that immerses the viewer in an engagement that film can't compete with on depth, world-building, etc.

I'm not trying to suggest film isn't an art form in itself, that often has significant differences from television, but watching trends have been favouring television over film lately, especially by hour watched.

Re: The “Oscar movie” is dying

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Post by wilg »

DeetrixDotter wrote: post #40
0x445442 wrote: post #31

I don’t want to spend my entertainment dollars subjecting myself to political gaslighting. I want to be entertained by a good story. Sadly, this seems to be an insurmountable hurdle for Hollywood at the moment.

Nothing quite breaks the immersion for me like having so many gay and interracial couples crammed into the cast that I end up sitting there wondering if there is any place on Earth that's anything like the "normal" town Hollywood is presenting to me.

Personally, I am not bothered by seeing gay and interracial couples in films.

Re: The “Oscar movie” is dying

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Post by valarauko »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #55
nayroclade wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cinema's latest brainwave, at least in the UK, is to run patronising adverts about how great the "big-screen experience" is, and how we shouldn't ruin films by watching on our TVs, laptops, phones, etc. Except, like the old anti-piracy ads, they run these adverts in cinemas before movies, to a group of people who've literally just made the decision to go to the cinema. Like a priest ranting at his congregation about…

Funnily, the big picture is the least interesting part of the experience for me. Back when I lived in NYC, I used to go to Nighthawk cinemas every once in a while for a date night. We'd pick a movie, shell out for some fancy cocktails and dinner, and enjoy the drinks and food while watching the movie. It was a great experience, really loved their menu. They even had a really smart ordering system, where you wrote you…

> Back when I lived in NYC, I used to go to Nighthawk cinemas every once in a while for a date night. We'd pick a movie, shell out for some fancy cocktails and dinner, and enjoy the drinks and food while watching the movie. It was a great experience, really loved their menu. They even had a really smart ordering system, where you wrote your order down on a piece of paper and the servers picked them up silently so as not to disrupt the movie.

This is essentially how the Alamo Drafthouse works as well, and I loved their FiDi location (opened just over a year ago). The Alamo also has a monthly membership for 30 bucks that I used for a long time. Unfortunately, both of their NYC locations are inconveniently located for me, and I eventually switched over to AMC - and the amount of screaming children is insane - why are people bringing children to a PG-13/NC-17 movie?! The Alamo staff will come and shush people talking or disruptive in any way, while my most recent AMC experience had somebody in the theater smoking/vaping pot.

Re: The “Oscar movie” is dying

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Post by 8f2ab37a-ed6c »

DeetrixDotter wrote: post #40
0x445442 wrote: post #31

I don’t want to spend my entertainment dollars subjecting myself to political gaslighting. I want to be entertained by a good story. Sadly, this seems to be an insurmountable hurdle for Hollywood at the moment.

Nothing quite breaks the immersion for me like having so many gay and interracial couples crammed into the cast that I end up sitting there wondering if there is any place on Earth that's anything like the "normal" town Hollywood is presenting to me.

Are you saying that the Vikings weren't actually led by empowered African women? /s
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