Hertz to pay $168M to customers arrested due to Hertz’s false police reports

Post by lajosbacs » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 7:35 PM UTC

maerF0x0 wrote: post #58

> pending 30 days in jail, where she suffered a miscarriage. Ok this is horrific, and Hertz should be ashamed of their behavior. Now, we dont have any proof the arrest or jail time caused the miscarriage, but to the extent we believe it did, can we also talk for a minute about why our executive branch/jail system is so hard on people (of both sexes btw) such that physiological distress occurs such as miscarriages or…

Post by mrguyorama » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 7:37 PM UTC

Dracophoenix wrote: post #72

chickenpotpie wrote: post #53

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If the president of the United States is knowingly making a profit from the actions of a government employee and they do not interfer, then yes they should go to jail. The line is murkier when someone is just doing a bad job, but if someone is knowingly making money from illegal behavior they can easily put a stop to they should go to prison.

> If the president of the United States is knowingly making a profit from the actions of a government employee and they do not interfer, then yes they should go to jail. This would be a great argument for abolishing the IRS.

Post by phpisthebest » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 7:38 PM UTC

pitaj wrote: post #55

rtepopbe wrote: post #42

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It depends a lot on what kind of crime you're dealing with. This isn't a matter of teaching the executives of Hertz that no, they don't need to commit crimes to survive, and how to access alternative means of survival, and all that. They did this because they were greedy, lazy, and they knew they wouldn't suffer much for it. When you're dealing with white-collar sorts of crimes like this, deterrence is a thing.

Prison is not the right fit. If you want deterrence, make them pay directly towards the victims. Put them on house arrest. Put them on probation. Ban them from holding a managerial or executive role. There are plenty of alternatives that don't involve locking people in cells - and that are probably more effective a deterrent.

Post by mrguyorama » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 7:42 PM UTC

smsm42 wrote: post #26

jmyeet wrote: post #15

Let's compare this to China where 2 executives were sentenced to death (and others to life sentences) for their role in selling tainted formula (resulting in infant deaths) and concealing it [1] or Jack Ma (of Alibaba) who just disappeared for 3 months [2]. It should be a legal requirement that a human review and sign off on any complaint about a stolen car to police. That personal (and company) should be held crimin…

Trading a set of small villains which sometimes get (insufficiently) punished for one super-powerful supervillain which never gets punished for anything doesn't look like a good deal to me. Yes, Darth Vader used to choke his underlings who misbehaved, it doesn't exactly make him a good guy.

Post by pessimizer » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 7:42 PM UTC

pitaj wrote: post #36

ethanbond wrote: post #29

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Why can't they be compensated directly for the financial damages and then put the perpetrators in prison for all the damages that can't be moneyed-away?

How does imprisoning someone help the victims in any way? People have some really fucked up ideas of justice. Justice should focus first on making victims whole, then on rehabilitating the perpetrators to prevent victimization in the future. Imprisonment serves neither of those goals.