Well, guess the genie's out of the bottle and we can never stop this. Bow down to the inevitability of technological progress, Luddites! Good luck retraining into a new job, I hear "prompt engineer automation" is the new hotness. Or at least that's what all of you kept telling me when I was expressing my unhappiness at the way corporate-sponsored image generating black boxes are built atop a shaky moral foundation th…
Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
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Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#92And so it begins. Welcome to the new internet. I'm bracing myself for when this wave of AI content hits academic journals.
With a bit more refinement, if it had the ability to generate graphs, etc, it might be able to generate very believable papers. At least, believable enough that you can't tell without reading the paper attentively.
If the thing you want to use is fairly popular and published on the web, even recently, it probably knows how to use it and combine it with everything else it knows.
Just yesterday I asked it to combine LiveView with a third party JS library to build an interactive thing and it got it on the first try using the latest Phoenix 1.7 RC which only came out in November.
I haven’t tried it, but I bet you could ask it to generate a PDF in code using your favorite language with text from GPT and graphics generated from any framework that’s compatible with your language. White-paper-as-a-Service.
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's just its default setting. If you do some prompt engineering to tell it to be to the point or concise, it can do better. E.g. I got: The repercussions of ChatGPT flooding Stack Overflow with answers could include decreased quality and relevance of answers, decreased user engagement, damage to the platform's reputation, and potential loss of revenue.
Still sounds too formal. To me, it reads like the intro to a high school paper. The next four paragraphs would elaborate on each of the points listed.
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#94This is just a preview of things to come. Wait a few weeks until Google is completely swamped with ChatGPT SEO pages barely distinguishable from the real thing. If I worked at search quality at Google, I'd be very worried.
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#95It seems like there are a few potential negative consequences of using AI-generated answers on Stack Overflow. For one, the quality of the answers may be lower than if they were written by a human. Additionally, if these AI-generated answers become too common, it could potentially lead to a more impersonal and less supportive community on Stack Overflow. Finally, if the AI is able to search the internet and "inbreed"…
Honestly I think we are going to have to take an aggressive stance against mediocre generated content here on HN, lest this small island of community be lost like the rest of the Old Internet.
How do you propose we do that?
And what do you propose we do when ChatGPT (or something like it) can create better content than most humans?
(... which I would argue it is already happening in some limited contexts, although I admit my stance is controversial).
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#96I would not be surprised if the quality of human writing actually goes up. I have this weird feeling that ChatGPT and similar tools will become almost equivalent to calculators for math? My experience as a writer is that sometimes just throwing down a first draft is the hardest step - I could see these tools really assisting in the writing process. Generate a draft, do some tweaking, ask for suggestions or improvements, repeat.
I don't know how I feel about code generated by these tools. Will there be a similar benefit compared to writing? At some level, we will need some deeper mastery of writing and coding to use these things well. Is there a complexity cliff that these tools will never be able to overcome?
A total lack of trust for general internet search results. So much content is already shallow copies of other content. I don't see how general internet search survives this.
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#97I have a collection of about 25 prompts such as these, in my benchmark.
I have run these examples through different applications such as AI Dungeon, OpenAI Playground, NovelAI, etc. Results vary a lot. In some cases, the results look good but upon closer inspection, you realize that the AI keeps providing the sake exact answer. It is the case for the ice cream prompt. Pickle, fried chicken, curry keeps showing up. I guess the model contains a few specific examples of original ice cream recipes and just pick them.
For the Pokemon and "new word" prompt, models failed to come up with anything original. Until I tried OpenAI Playground this week and finally got some really creative answers, with variety.
AI Dungeon (2 years ago) was already good at faking tech support steps. OpenAI is amazingly good, although in most cases it provides solutions that only make sense superficially. It's the ultimate bullshit engine.
Another word of caution. While OpenAI can now guesstimate what a code snippet does, and can generate some pretty good code in many languages (ice tried 6809 assembler and the results surprised me), it is very unreliable.
More alarming is the fact that it's a text engine, not a math formula interpreter. It gets confused at simple equations and cannot interpret anything that's not already ordered (it cannot apply operator priority or respect parentheses).
I think it will become increasingly difficult to identify contents coming from ChatGPT and other chatbots or story generators. An arm's race might be futile. We should apply stricter rules to identify problematic answers: answers that are too generic or vague and can't be used to directly solve a practical problem, and answers that contain incorrect or misleading information. Identifying vague or non-practical questions might also help in avoiding a deluge of Chatbot answers. Some users will ask very general questions, and then it becomes difficult to evaluate the answers. Or, users will ask questions that were already answered in the past. The proper way to handle those is to point then to the prior discussion and avoid duplicating it. The wrong way is a Chatbot or a human seizing the opportunity to copy-paste existing contents for a quick win.
In a way, chatbots and humans can both provide useful insights, as well as useless or incorrect answers. But so far, only a human can provide a proper answer to a moderately complex technical question if no prior answer exists.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If its working code and indistinguishable from a human answer to anyone reading it These are extremely stringent conditions, though. Convincing-looking-but-wrong answers would arguably be even more damaging than a lack of answers. (I suppose you could argue that these could arise from humans as well as from AGIs. I'm not sure if there's a good counter-argument to that)
I think your two final sentences capture the essence of what I was going to respond. "It doesn't matter if the answer is convincing-looking and wrong. It needs to work / be syntactically correct at a minimum, which OpenAI seems good at. However, the OP and others needs to test and evaluate if the proposed answer solve the original problem. And if its not, it will quickly be revealed as such, and "downvoted" or whatev…
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#99We need to start developing software to detect AI responses. To detect a response generated by ChatGPT, we could first analyze the content of the response to see if it contains any unnatural or repetitive language. We could also check the formatting of the response to see if it follows the typical conventions used by human responders on the platform. Additionally, we could check for any unusual patterns in the timest…
whatever your idea (i skimmmed cuz) the discriminator will find it and have the generator apply it to the next generation.
>The core idea of a GAN is based on the "indirect" training through the discriminator, another neural network that can tell how "realistic" the input seems, which itself is also being updated dynamically.[5] This means that the generator is not trained to minimize the distance to a specific image, but rather to fool the discriminator. This enables the model to learn in an unsupervised manner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_adversarial_network
Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT
#100This is just a preview of things to come. Wait a few weeks until Google is completely swamped with ChatGPT SEO pages barely distinguishable from the real thing. If I worked at search quality at Google, I'd be very worried.
I wouldn't be surprised if they revert the direction and put a significant importance back on links because of this kind of technology.
[0]: https://www.seroundtable.com/google-links-less-impact-34493....