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Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by redthrowaway » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:34 PM UTC

tbrownaw wrote: post #75

revscat wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My list of what should be legally restricted in its availability is as follows: 1) Child pornography End list. National security is not enough of a reason for restrictions. Copyright is not enough of a reason. Further, the assumption that corporations or governments have exclusive moral authority to determine what constitutes impermissible material is, frankly, ridiculous. Giving them the authority to make such decis…

What is the reason for restricting that, and is there really nothing else it applies to?

If you're saying what I think you're saying, then I agree. There's no reason to block domains where cp has been posted. Rather, work with the owners to track down the perpetrators. If the owners won't work with you and are willing enablers, then seize their servers and traffic records and go after the perpetrators yourselves.

Censorship just stops people from seeing the content; it doesn't deal with any of the root issues.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by bronson » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:38 PM UTC

There's no need to move all your domains today (that can be a HUGE job). Just pledge to not give GoDaddy another cent and move your domains as they expire. In five years, problem solved.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by lambda » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:38 PM UTC

Why is anyone who pays any attention still on GoDaddy anyhow?

They're a scummy company that have no respect for their customers, obnoxious advertising, and a clunky, annoying web interface. Why would you use them when you could use any of hundreds of other name registrars and web hosts?

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by realschool » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:40 PM UTC

maeon3 wrote: post #3

Ive been using bluehost.com for 3 years to host 3 websites. I could list them but I dont want to spam. They have everything I need and I have seen no significant outages or price increases. Anyone here use Godaddy? How are their prices and service?

ive used them for 6 years, never had a problem. vps for 2 years was comparably cheap however if you have config problems you pay out the wazoo OR figure it out yourself. The two times I was desperate enough to need to call support I figure out the problem myself while waiting on hold/waiting for a reply.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by atourgates » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:41 PM UTC

RexRollman wrote: post #13

Godaddy has to be one of the least trustworthy domain registrars I have heard of and I am surprised that people still use them. I guess their crass commercials must be drawing in the customers.

When was the last time you saw a commercial during a football game for any other registrar?

Unless I've missed something, the answer's never. So, when Joe Public wants to register a domain, he only knows about one way to do it.

Seems like a pretty effective marketing strategy to me.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by devmach » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:47 PM UTC

dmerfield wrote: post #19

Serious question: Has anyone in the HN community actually bought anything from GoDaddy? I find it difficult to imagine that any HN reader would. Was there ever an era when GoDaddy's reputation and service were respectable?

People makes mistakes. I bought some domains from GoDaddy. As they expire i'm transfering them to namecheap.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by didntdrinkjuice » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:50 PM UTC

freejack wrote: post #12

This blog post from their lead lobbyist defending their support is absolutely grating. http://rudysyndrome.com/2011/10/28/online-copyright-laws-won... "Most of what we are seeing is either 1) rhetoric, 2) regurgitated lobbying spin, 3) criticism of language we have already fixed, or 4) retweets by people who like to steal music and buy fake, but cheap, goods." Ugh. (oBDisclaimer: I work for a registrar that unequivoc…

In case anyone was suspicious, Nima Kelly (the author of the comment supporting Christine) is one of the GoDaddy legal department heads. Needless to say, she and Christine are quite familiar coworkers and friends.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by danso » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:55 PM UTC

I try to avoid helping anyone who needs help with their GoDaddy-hosted website. Not only is the interface atrocious (at least compared to DreamHost), I hate logging in and seeing Dana Patrick splayed out...if I want people around me thinking that I'm browsing Maxim magazine, I'll buy a Maxim magazine.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by InclinedPlane » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:56 PM UTC

maximusprime wrote: post #28

jbrechtel wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like you're suggesting apathy instead? To say it's a moot issue because there are technical work arounds is pretty naive. I seriously doubt any major browser would ship with a work around to this...I don't know why you assume they would.

I just think the sky isn't falling that's all. I think the endless posting of articles, protesting, etc etc is a big waste of man hours.

This sentiment is exactly the root of the problem. If "the sky started falling" at exactly the moment when governments erected police states or attained excessive powers then they would be blocked from having those powers.

Instead, these things tend to be two stage processes. In stage 1 the government attains new powers in order to further some generally positive goal. However, in stage 2 the lack of safeguards on that power leads to abuse and excess but by then it's already too late to easily roll back or block that power.

If we wait until the sky is falling then we will have waited too long. We need to ensure that personal liberties have strong protections, both offline and on. Failing to do so won't lead to immediate disaster but it will lead to making it nearly impossible to stop a disaster as it's happening.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by grecy » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 6:09 PM UTC

revscat wrote: post #36

maximusprime wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does "Open Internet" mean though? You can't reasonably support free speech in all instances, just like you can't reasonably support an "open internet" in all instances. There have to be some exceptions. It's the listing of those exceptions and how you deal with them that's the tricky bit. So saying "I support an open internet" is just ignoring the issue.

My list of what should be legally restricted in its availability is as follows: 1) Child pornography End list. National security is not enough of a reason for restrictions. Copyright is not enough of a reason. Further, the assumption that corporations or governments have exclusive moral authority to determine what constitutes impermissible material is, frankly, ridiculous. Giving them the authority to make such decis…

> 1) Child pornography

Obviously this is an extremely touchy subject, but I think the fact you have even one exception shows you are not grasping the problem here.

So in your country, "Child" may mean It just makes no sense to say "There are no exceptions. Except this one, that can be interpreted in hundreds of different ways". Once you leave it for interpretation, the scope will expand and expand until children are being listed as sex offenders for taking photos of themselves.