Why are they at work at 1am?
I like to turn it around an ask what opportunity I would show up for at 1am.
Twitter at 1am on a Friday
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#92This is like a sociological experiment where they show different people the same picture and ask "what do you see"? The results are heavily influenced by your previous perception of Elon. The results vary from "abuse and modern slavery" to "I'd fly halfway across the country to be there." I don't really have an opinion here as I don't know what is actually happening and assume the original poster intentionally framed it in a specific way. As humans we are very predictable, and even in a high IQ place such as HN, mostly everyone used the photo as validation of their existing position.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a family and a life outside of work, and I can’t count how many all nighters I have pulled in 35+ years of my career. Sometimes you need to do them. Of course I was raised in a generation that believed it was in our best interest that our company’s were successful…
> I was raised in a generation that believed it was in our best interest that our company’s were successful… Unless I was given a ton of liquid equity for it, I would not assume it was in my best interest.
Liquid equity implying you could turn it into cash, so equivalent to good salary? Regular compensation is indeed a sufficient driver for employees to want their employer to be successful.
Having a stake in a business doesn’t just mean owning stock looking for future growth. Wanting the business to still be alive this time next year is also a future outcome that can be embraced by anyone who draws a salary.
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#94Looking at that diagram, and thinking the person who needed it just bought the company for 44 billion dollars, is bewildering.
What diagram / whiteboard are people talking about? Is there more than one photo?
The only whiteboard I see is on the right hand side at the back, mostly obscured by people, and I certainly can't make out what's on it.
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#95Are you kidding me? Those guys are living the dream! Chilling out with Elon Musk on a Friday night. I’d go there to make the coffee and clean the dishes so I could overhear in the next room. No seriously
Oof. That boot.
He’s only the most successful entrepreneur alive. But sure visa holders need their beauty sleep. Seriously you can’t stay up to 1am to have the company of the worlds richest person? What an opportunity to learn. This thread is totally nuts
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#96I am amazed by how polarizing this seems to be. Some of my best memories are from previous startups with this exact 1am energy. This is how shared mental models are built, shit gets done, and shared suffering cements lifelong bonds.
I believe that those memories are of times that share some factual similarities to the pictured scene, but it seems pretty presumptuous to assert that the energy is the same.
I am curious about what you think could be the most relevant differences.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess different people want different things, but I would have flown across the country to be in that room at 1am. A startup sized team working on a platform with twitters scale for a boss with capital and a willingness to consider new ideas? Once in a lifetime opportunity.
> A startup sized team working on a platform with twitters scale for a boss with capital and a willingness to consider new ideas? Willingness to consider his new ideas. Not your new ideas. He's the idea man, your job is to implement it. And if you tell him why the idea may not work as intended, you're fired.
Tesla has implemented numerous ideas from their customers' tweets.
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#98As the comment says, it would be interesting to interact with the richest person on earth. Short of that, I have no idea why anyone would think it's fun or anything to be in that atmosphere. He could change direction on a whim and make you redundant in a second.
I'd like to assert this richest person holds no real sway over you unless threatening your life, which is a far cry from possibly just being a nuisance narcissistic character at worst introducing a discontinuity in your employment. You're as important as him, regardless of your bank account.
At best you might follow him to the next business venture that everyone is talking about in 2030.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
> so that he can create the American Weechat, or whatever he's got in mind. What if what he has in mind is attempting to undo the negative effects that social networks have had on our society and democracy and instead attempt to rebuild this particular network in a way that can have a positive effect on society? It seems like that is a technological possibility and also something he could plausibly be interested in.
What if what if what if. What about his actions leads you to believe he's more capable of that than the thousands of people who were already working on it? If that were easy to do it would have been done, social media companies are full of people who care very deeply about this exact issue and who are also not absolute fucking neophytes at understanding and managing the constraints of a large social media network. An…
> what about his actions leads you to believe he's more capable of that than the thousands of people who were already working on it?
My sense is that the 1000's of people who where already working on it have been working on it from the perspective of how to make a billion dollars while working at it. EM is free from that constraint.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Twitter isn't a startup. The folks in this picture don't have the same risk/reward as their counterparts at a startup would.
They are going "hardcore" with EM at a critical time. You could be looking at the "twitter mafia" of 2030 something.
The PayPal mafia had equity / ownership that paid off when they sold the company. Those people in the photo are employees with essentially 0 upside in terms of real ownership.
For there to be a “Twitter mafia” Elon would need to, out of the kindness of his heart, give them real ownership in Twitter. And then Twitter needs to be a success, much more than it already was.
I’d play the lottery instead and leave fantasy land.