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Or past presidents, it would seem.
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might be a little bit of a tell that you're jumping to defend someone that wasn't even named
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How is investigation of Modi by "Supreme court of India" an independent investigation? It is the classic case of "we looked into our wrong doing and found nothing"
analogously, would you also agree with the following statement? “How is the investigation of US president trump by the US congress an independent investigation…?”
During the first impeachment trial they agreed to not hear from any witnesses or allow new documents into evidence since his party controlled the senate.
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#93The same happened to Modi, the PM of India, if my memory serves me right. He was banned from entering USA for his deeds, until he turned out to be the head of India. Apparently your only way out is to be the head of your state, if you have done something evil.
We award nobel peace prizes to warlords and people who commit genocide along with other acts against humanity. What an age we live in when awards are not given post humorously and cannot be revoked.
I don't believe in post-hoc awards removal. If you awarded something, you do it with no possibility of taking it back even if the recipient turns out to be the worst bastard ever later on.
I do believe big and serious awards should be done posthumously. I don't believe in for example, naming Airports or large buildings after someone who is/was still a live at dedication time.
However, I will acquiesce to asterisks --not removals.
Re: Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over Khashoggi killing
#94The same happened to Modi, the PM of India, if my memory serves me right. He was banned from entering USA for his deeds, until he turned out to be the head of India. Apparently your only way out is to be the head of your state, if you have done something evil.
This is problematic because one of the underpinnings of western liberalism is the notion of Rule of Law: that, at the end of the day, we are all bound to the same rules.
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#95So he can't be held liable because he is the Prime Minister of SA. Essentially the same thing here where the sitting President cannot be directly charged with a crime (or sued personally).
Where is “here”?
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The US is (and has been for a long time), an exporter of refined petroleum products such as Gasoline. In 2021, it also happened to be a net exporter or petroleum overall, but usually it bounces around. https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc... Saudi Arabia is key in keeping global energy prices lower by increasing global supply, and is also a key ally in a historically unstable region which impa…
>and is also a key ally in a historically unstable region which impacts those prices. they were until democrats spent their last two presidencies trying to fund and justify the nuclear research of SA's biggest regional rival who is already funding catspaw wars against SA - Iran. Then when you ask them to lower the price of oil they wonder why you've spent multiple years working against them while coming now to beg fo…
Saudi is not a reliable or good ally and there’s no reason why the US should favor them over Iran.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is investigation of Modi by "Supreme court of India" an independent investigation? It is the classic case of "we looked into our wrong doing and found nothing"
analogously, would you also agree with the following statement? “How is the investigation of US president trump by the US congress an independent investigation…?”
> “How is the investigation of US president trump by the US congress an independent investigation…?”
I mean - fair point, it's not.
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Or past presidents, it would seem.
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6 pages of crimes by the last guy... here ya go, bub:
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/cre...
Pressuring GA to manufacture exactly the # of votes he needed to win, inciting a violent insurrection with the express purpose of remaining in power despite knowing he lost the election, stealing 27 boxes of classified material, Trump Organization tax fraud... take your pick.
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She hasn't returned to the UK for the trial. It'll be a question of if she gets extradited or not. The US state department has said extraditing her would be highly inappropriate and an abuse. Realistically, the US aren't sending her back. And considering she works/worked for the CIA, it's not exactly surprising.
If I'm reading the Wikipedia article correctly, she got approval from the judge in the UK to attend the trial virtually. She has been requested to attend the sentencing in person, but that hasn't happened yet.
The UK has requested that she be extradited. They refused. The first time ever the US has refused a UK extradition.
She has stated that she will not return on her own free will to face a prison sentence for this accident.
She had diplomatic immunity so clearly the US aren't going to send her back. And if you were her you wouldn't go back to go to prison. This is basically a show trial.
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#100I really hope the world can accelerate it's adoption of energy sources that will replace oil. They aren't without their own flaws but besides Norway, I can't think of place where oil hasn't corrupted society in some major way.
I am not optimistic that there will not be some other resource or reason for which governments will eschew principles.