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Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

#91

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Yes seem to be writing sarcastically and I'm not sure why. You are right, I, like many people, believe Elon is going to ruin Twitter, possibly bankrupting it. Therefore it is worth looking at alternatives. The ruining of Twitter makes alternatives more attractive.

You weren't worried about it going bankrupt when it was losing millions of dollars a day and running in the red for years on end?

RocketMan bad.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

#92

If the idea of federated Twitter was so good and so important why did everyone seemingly only get interested in it right now? Charitably it would seem that this is just the topic du jour and "top of mind" for many people due to recent changes at Twitter. But if running your own Mastodon server is a good idea today, surely it was a good idea two weeks ago. Cynically, it seems that many of these people seem motivated b…

Mastodon and ActivityPub in general have UX issues. I can't imagine trying to explain to non-technical users why they have to open a pop-up window to another website just to be able to follow someone, or why people keep changing handles, etc etc. For most people using social media outside of the context of a professional organization, it also means trusting whoever operates the instance, most of which will probably b…

In the first week Musk has already shown that his Twitter will erratically push out poorly thought out policy changes on a whim. Definitely not giving "reliable" vibes.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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post #81

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No one wants to do this. The HN type crowd always is willing (or says its willing) to do more work to get more privacy/freedom/etc... Almost everyone else will take convenience and cost over those things. That said, I have no interest in using Twitter now. But I want something that is basically Twitter, except without Elon Musk running it.

"Thing Elon built-or-owns, without Elon" turns out to be an entire market segment. Anecdotally, most folks I know in the market for electric vehicles are avoiding Tesla so they don't have to think about a _specific_ billionaire each time they get into their car. Elon's especially visible right now, but generally, folks want their stuff to be theirs, not defined by someone else. FWIW most of the people I'm thinking of…

>Thing Elon built

Are we really going to act like Elon built Twitter now?

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Yes, I am imagine their email server is also just for their employees. What's your point?

They literally link it at the end of the article with "Find us at https://toot.thoughtworks.com " On a blog post about running your own instance to reach millions of users, why does it turn out that their instance is totally locked down and actually not accessible to anyone?

Here's their public feed, linked from that page.

https://toot.thoughtworks.com/public

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

#96
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Fair warning about this Mastodon behavior that can lead to embarrassment/leaks as new people start to use it: https://mastodon.social/@mmasnick/109299348553543784

Interesting that Mastodon's [Back] button triggers a javascript:back event, so it takes me back to this forum. I don't know if in 2022 that is the expected behaviour haha.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

#97
post #35

If the idea of federated Twitter was so good and so important why did everyone seemingly only get interested in it right now? Charitably it would seem that this is just the topic du jour and "top of mind" for many people due to recent changes at Twitter. But if running your own Mastodon server is a good idea today, surely it was a good idea two weeks ago. Cynically, it seems that many of these people seem motivated b…

Social media is better when the people you want to interact with are there, so when everyone else is moving is an unusually good time to move.

Indeed. The network effect. I got onto Mastodon in May just to check it out. It was pretty sleepy in that there weren't a lot of people I was following on twitter on mastodon. In the last couple of weeks that's begun to change rapidly. I think we're nearing a tipping point.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

#98
post #41

If the idea of federated Twitter was so good and so important why did everyone seemingly only get interested in it right now? Charitably it would seem that this is just the topic du jour and "top of mind" for many people due to recent changes at Twitter. But if running your own Mastodon server is a good idea today, surely it was a good idea two weeks ago. Cynically, it seems that many of these people seem motivated b…

> If the idea of federated Twitter was so good and so important why did everyone seemingly only get interested in it right now? It involves work. Before Musk's takeover Twitter was reliable, predictable and somewhat boring. Now it is none of those things, for better or worse. I think people see federation as a means to avoid a similar outcome in the future. > Now that Elon owns it, well, now it sucks and is bad. I me…

Let's assume that Elon decides to burn 44 billion instead of running a mostly successful business like he's generally done in the past with his other businesses. What exactly are the dangers of using Twitter if it might stop existing say 3 years from now?

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

#99
post #41

If the idea of federated Twitter was so good and so important why did everyone seemingly only get interested in it right now? Charitably it would seem that this is just the topic du jour and "top of mind" for many people due to recent changes at Twitter. But if running your own Mastodon server is a good idea today, surely it was a good idea two weeks ago. Cynically, it seems that many of these people seem motivated b…

> If the idea of federated Twitter was so good and so important why did everyone seemingly only get interested in it right now? It involves work. Before Musk's takeover Twitter was reliable, predictable and somewhat boring. Now it is none of those things, for better or worse. I think people see federation as a means to avoid a similar outcome in the future. > Now that Elon owns it, well, now it sucks and is bad. I me…

To date there has been no change in my Twitter experience.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

#100
post #94
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Thing Elon built-or-owns, without Elon" turns out to be an entire market segment. Anecdotally, most folks I know in the market for electric vehicles are avoiding Tesla so they don't have to think about a _specific_ billionaire each time they get into their car. Elon's especially visible right now, but generally, folks want their stuff to be theirs, not defined by someone else. FWIW most of the people I'm thinking of…

>Thing Elon built Are we really going to act like Elon built Twitter now?

Ah, fair. I'll edit-correct.
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