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I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Re: I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Post by kodyo »

woodruffw wrote: post #26
Alupis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're all adults, don't like his style, don't work for him. It's that simple. Obviously enough people don't think his style is harsh or vicious, as described in the article, otherwise his numerous companies wouldn't have a line out the door of prospective employees. My take on the article was Musk drives you like a good highschool sports coach. Demanding, hard, unforgiving... and you either live up to the high expect…

Nobody at Twitter asked to work for him. They woke up one day and found that he was their CEO, after months of legal games where he demonstrated extreme reluctance to honor his deal.

Shit happens that is outside your control. You control how you respond to it. If the new boss is a dick and you don’t want to work for him, you quit.

Re: I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Post by trentnix »

more_corn wrote: post #82
trentnix wrote: post #17

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Twenty years ago. I’ve no doubt Musk is mercurial, but the time gap alone is enough to render the article likely moot.

You don’t think musk is mercurial anymore? Are you paying any attention at all?

I think you need to re-read what I wrote.

Re: I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Post by scruple »

timbit42 wrote: post #78
Nokinside wrote: post #67

Sounds like Bill Gates. He yelled and bullied people to get what he wanted (and he has admitted it). Steve Jobs was also part of this club, more or less. There is no denying this type of uncivilized abusive leadership works sometimes. It drives off people not suited to it, but results speak for themselves. Complete opposite approaches work also. I think it's tied to leaders personality. Asshole can't succeed with nic…

Also Jack Tramiel with his Jack Attacks.

I once worked for a man last name started with an A, who was lovingly referred to as A-Bomb and you never knew what would set him or when he would go off. Thankfully, he retired about half a year after I got there.

Re: I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

Madmallard wrote: post #29

The vision of space occupation has always come across to me as really stupid. From many scientific points of view it is infeasible, and many philosophical perspectives on top of that. I get the idea of making your vision come true and treating every obstacle as a technicality, but not all problems work that way. Especially not ones that go really far against biology.

Robotic asteroid mining to supply robotic construction of O’Neill cylinders (giant rotating habitats) is feasible with current or near-future technologies. Eventually, over 100-150 years, it should be possible for millions of people to live in space.

Should we do it? Sure, why not? We’ll explore the solar system and beyond. The human race would be able to multiply almost indefinitely, and develop amazing new tech, human like robots, medical cures, art and music, anti-matter propulsion, quantum computers… so much potential.

Re: I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Post by smartbit »

camjohnson26 wrote: post #75
friendlyHornet wrote: post #34

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This. We're talking about a guy who publicly falsely accused a guy he was jealous of of being a pedo without evidence. Just imagine what he would do if he could get away with it without backlash I wouldn't want to gez on his bad side because I think he has the power and pettiness to ruin my life

You don’t have to imagine: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon...

Link https://archive.ph/LPghE

Tesla CEO Elon Musk Admits He May Have Bipolar Disorder https://yourdost.com/blog/2017/08/is-elon-musk-bipolar.html

Re: I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Post by agumonkey »

Alupis wrote: post #23
agumonkey wrote: post #18

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Kinda agreeing, but I have to say sometimes there's a thin line between sport coach and bad leader. You gotta ensure tact and fairness.

I think given Elon's obvious numerous successes, despite this latest frenzy of "Musk Bad", he's objectively a great leader. You do not get to where he is by being a bad leader. His entire job is leading, despite what people like to think (ie. that he's actually designing rockets or whatever...)

Fair point but I feel there's a large difference between his previous ventures and twitter, this one is purposeless and highly political. We'll see.

Re: I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Post by agumonkey »

Nokinside wrote: post #67

Sounds like Bill Gates. He yelled and bullied people to get what he wanted (and he has admitted it). Steve Jobs was also part of this club, more or less. There is no denying this type of uncivilized abusive leadership works sometimes. It drives off people not suited to it, but results speak for themselves. Complete opposite approaches work also. I think it's tied to leaders personality. Asshole can't succeed with nic…

Which successful leaders used the opposite approach ? genuinely curious.

Re: I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Post by woodruffw »

Alupis wrote: post #71
joecool1029 wrote: post #63

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> Which actually sounds wonderful... working with an entire organization that is aligned in thought and motivations, and everyone bringing their 'A' game. Compare that to your current job... Join a cult? > Not to mention the guy in the article only worked with Musk for less than 1 year, over 20 years ago. He's likely much worse now. A person's nature doesn't change so much over the years but the experiences they have…

> Join a cult? I remember, just a little over a year ago where the fever surrounding anything Musk related could only be reasonably described as a cult. It was amazing to witness... the guy could do no wrong, ever. It didn't matter how outlandish the idea was, how uninformed the plan was, how badly he went about it... he was god on earth. Then he says a few things Californian's disagreed with during the peak of Covid…

Your recollection is distorted. Most of the people who don't like what he does now didn't like him a year ago either.

Re: I worked for Elon Musk in the early days of SpaceX

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Post by angelbar »

woodruffw wrote: post #15
brindlejim wrote: post #4

I agree with the author that there is a good Elon and a bad Elon. But I think Twitter only gets the bad Elon. At Tesla, Elon is producing EVs to help save the planet. At SpaceX, he is producing spacecraft to help save humanity. At Twitter, he is making the world a better place for unfounded conspiracy theories and Russian talking points, which he himself promotes. In the last month, Elon has claimed on Twitter that 1…

I don’t buy the premise: it’s not clear to me how prolonging our dependence on personal cars saves the planet, or how anything about space exploration is going to save the billions of humans who live on Earth. It’s very easy to confuse objects of technical fascination with moral virtue, particularly when our world appears bleak. But Musk has demonstrated no motives other than profit and infamy.

1) Its better to let the fossil fuels burn in a central site to generate energy than to be burned in individual ICE vehicles. Not including renewable energy.

2) SpaceX is not directed to save people in earth, but humanity in general. There is a need to generate other organizations for save earthlings, but it is not SpaceX. -But Musk has demonstrated no motives other than profit and infamy-... Sure.

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