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Re: Thoughts about Twitter

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Post by RobertRoberts »

saryant wrote: post #67
RobertRoberts wrote: post #65

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Wanting peace is now a bad thing? Does it matter that his method wasn't ideal, at least he wasn't pushing for nuclear war like many politicians.

Wanting peace is a good thing. Wanted Ukraine to capitulate to genocide is not.

Looking back on history should give us clarity for today. The genocides that I know of were not the same as military invasions.

And in light of past civil wars, what is the best solution for neighboring nation? I am fairly certain every country has taken land this way, so maybe we should give Texas and California back to Mexico?

Russia is NOT in the right, but Russia's actions don't change how we should be pushing for peace.

Where have all the hippies gone?

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Post by forkLding »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #65
tushonka wrote: post #50

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The image of Elon Musk turned sour after he decided to play geo-politcs and play the Putin's peacekeeper puppet. That event, at least for me showed the true colors of Musky

Wanting peace is now a bad thing? Does it matter that his method wasn't ideal, at least he wasn't pushing for nuclear war like many politicians.

Putin won't stop though, the war with the Georgians in 2008, 2014 Ukraine invasion and now this Ukraine war. Is it really peace when one side calls for peace?

Don't forget WW2, when Nazi Germany under Hitler annexed Czechslovakia in 1938, invaded and split up Poland in 1939 and all the Great Powers did not do anything due to either appeasement or isolationism. We need to learn from history, expansionist dictators do not stop and conceding to them only leads to further war and likely world war.

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Post by smarcellus »

DoneWithAllThat wrote: post #64

The claims in this article assume a lot. To pick just one, regarding stability/uptime: without knowing the distribution of layoffs by department, this may not just be incorrect, but the opposite might be true: if most SREs were retained, and engineers who know the systems well are still around, stability will likely improve as there will be fewer changes to the systems (usually the number one source of outages). If P…

Doesn't seem likely considering Musk's intent to push a ton of new experimental features within a week. https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1588304086792667136

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Post by ricardo81 »

What I get from this whole experience is big tech employees, likely on a wage x^2 their national average, are able to communicate more widely to the world about their disenfranchisement about being unemployed than others made unemployed who are not.

Slightly ironic that they're employed by social networks. Said tongue in cheek because these are people with livelihoods and looking after families.

There are others that are concerned with big tech in general and its role that have been marginalised in mainstream news. Is there actually any pioneer in these companies that thinks social media on a global scale can work for good, apart from Elon Musk, apparently?

The whole centralisation of the net was a problem in the first place.

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Post by Swenrekcah »

mjr00 wrote: post #20

> But, what is gone? Twitter was a unique spot where journalists, celebrities, titans of industries, your family, friends and co-workers, would join a daily mosh pit filled with a mix of truly important cultural moments and the most inane things you’ve ever seen. [...] Twitter will likely go from Elon’s new toy that is too difficult for him to play with, to being passed on to his legal and finance advisers to sort ou…

Regarding the Facebook algorithmic feed.

It kind of was the end of that platform and the beginning of a new one. One likely much more profitable and also much more destructive to liberal democracy.

(Liberal as in the real, proper sense, not the newer slightly illiberal liberals)

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Post by thebradbain »

Imnimo wrote: post #62

I'm very unconvinced by Elon's $8 plan, but even to me "smothering it within weeks" seems wildly pessimistic. Even if his strategy doesn't work out, would things really come crashing down so quickly?

I've been a daily user of Twitter since 2011. I mostly use it to keep up with the entertainment industry/Hollywood as I live in Los Angeles and that's where the sausage in this town is made (which when HN talks about Twitter, I think on the whole completely forgets about that huge contingent of Twitter), so not really into the whole politics/tech sphere there (that's what HN is for). Most people in that sphere don't really _want_ to care one way or the other who runs Twitter.

And yet from a technical perspective, I've already noticed broken links. Duplicate tweets being posted. False notifications... the cracks are already showing and its one day in. Others have too.

This has a cascading effect that people who previously do not necessarily care on the whole about who runs Twitter are now seeing the app simply not work how did yesterday, and attributing it to the new management.

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Post by RobertRoberts »

sylens wrote: post #74
RobertRoberts wrote: post #65

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Wanting peace is now a bad thing? Does it matter that his method wasn't ideal, at least he wasn't pushing for nuclear war like many politicians.

That's an intellectually dishonest argument. Everybody wants peace. Peace is a good thing. But what most people agree on is that you don't give an autocrat anything they want just for the promise of peace. Most people remember that lesson from 1938.

You are just arguing methods, I am arguing absolutes. I have no idea what the best way to achieve peace on an international scale, so my argument is pure because I don't pretend to know.

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Post by vineyardmike »

stainablesteel wrote: post #42

i don't understand how people keep getting played by the same media tactics elon is playing you, everything is fine, he just wants free attention to spread platform news to people without spending $ all the complainers are his new marketing network and it's glorious

Normally I’d agree with you, it’s exactly his MO and it works - BUT- the 50% job cuts and massive revenue issues they’re rumored to already face is actually news on it’s own. His fluff about changes are just outrage marketing.

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Post by friedman23 »

marcinzm wrote: post #83
friedman23 wrote: post #59

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It's interesting how you all are bringing up the law and contracts but simultaneously moaning about how cruel he is for firing everyone. He OWNS the company. > Actions have consequences which is a basic thing that it seems some people have a really hard time understanding. Yes, this is what happens when you choose to be an employee of a company someone else owns. You are at their mercy. That's the deal. So you are El…

>He OWNS the company. So you agree that this is 99% on Elon past, present and future. Great that we're in alignment on my main point.

No, I don't. Every contract has two parties. Elon did not want to go through with the contract, the other party forced them to abide by the agreement (Twitter's shareholders, which funnily enough, many of Twitter's employees are counted among).

Everyone knew what selling twitter to elon meant for the employees and the company. There were rumors of mass layoffs weeks ago. It was forced through still anyway.

So in addition to Elon, everyone that cashed out of twitter is responsible for what's happening to the company now and all the employees that allowed the company to become fat and bloated are responsible too.

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Post by jemmyw »

friedman23 wrote: post #45
grumpitron wrote: post #36

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Correction - HE forced himself to buy it by signing a binding contract to buy it.

No. Not even semantically correct. If he didn't want to do something and the other party in the negotiation used the legal system to make him do it he was forced by someone else to do it. Anyway, it's beside the point. Elon OWNS twitter. Do you all understand what ownership means? Like how you own a phone? If he wants to smash his new toy into the ground and break it that's his prerogative. Employees need to stop del…

I agree about the ownership side. If I was an employee I'd have started job hunting the moment he started making comments about buying.

The employees do have power, they could refuse to work en-masse and he can find out how hard or easy it is to hire a completely new crew. But I'm guessing there's too much internal strife and disagreement for that to happen.

Plus I have to agree with his assessment - there's not that much to twitter really, it's hardly a massively complicated and sprawling software product. They have too many people. Some of those complaining about being let go have... titles that don't make that much sense for the kind of businsess twitter is. I hate seeing people lose their job. Companies should be a bit more circumspect in their hiring.

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