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Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Post by rambambram »

mawise wrote: post #7

+1 for RSS, I leaned on RSS as my protocol-of-choice for Haven[1], and even added a built-in RSS feed-reader. It provides a single chronologically-ordered stream of content from all your feeds which I've found makes it much more pleasant to read through. [1]: https://havenweb.org

Hi Matt, we've recently emailed about Haven and HeyHomepage because we both are RSS-based, so to speak. Your software is oriented towards private (group) communication and makes a strong case as an alternative for Facebook. I've a lot of respect for your product! With HeyHomepage I'm more publicly oriented, more Twitter-like if you will. On top of a publicly accessible website.

The beauty of RSS is it's interoperability. So I was wondering, can your built-in newsreader also read my RSS feed, for example? Or only other Haven feeds?

And the other way around, can I follow private feeds from Haven users with my built-in newsreader? Or any other separate newsreader software, for that matter? As long as Haven users would share that link with me, of course.

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Post by satrday »

robalni wrote: post #77

> I have stopped subscribing/following anything/anyone online. Same. I even wrote a program that allows me to follow people on Twitch without being logged in there. I made a bash alias so I just need to type "f" in the terminal when I want to see who is live. Otherwise I use newsboat for things that have RSS feeds and w3m bookmarks for everything else. W3m has a really nice bookmarks page that is just a list of links…

Would love to see the Twitch program!

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Post by mmplxx »

I've mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I like the uniformity and simplicity of RSS, its vibe of good old times and the ability to avoid ad-driven ranking algorithms. On the other hand, many media/content sources offer legitimately sophisticated recommendation systems that are more effective than having dozens of unranked high-frequency inputs a day in your RSS inbox. For sources with more curated and low-frequency output there is no trade-off, though.

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Post by robalni »

satrday wrote: post #92
robalni wrote: post #77

> I have stopped subscribing/following anything/anyone online. Same. I even wrote a program that allows me to follow people on Twitch without being logged in there. I made a bash alias so I just need to type "f" in the terminal when I want to see who is live. Otherwise I use newsboat for things that have RSS feeds and w3m bookmarks for everything else. W3m has a really nice bookmarks page that is just a list of links…

Would love to see the Twitch program!

https://github.com/robalni/twitch-shell

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Post by djbusby »

dont__panic wrote: post #82
cxr wrote: post #18

PSA: enable CORS[1] so people can make cross-origin requests without having to run a proxy. PSA #2: set things up so the author field of your feed includes your email address (e.g. "Alice ") and not just your bare name, so people can more easily get in touch with you without having to click through to the original post and then hunt around for your contact page; otherwise, you might never find out it's broken[2]. 1.…

Curious why you recommend 1). Personally, I just don't use Javascript in my blog posts. But maybe I'm missing a use-case here? I should really add my email address to my news feed though.

It's so my domain can request from your domain using client side JS on my page, loading your RSS with a cross origin request.

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Post by cxr »

dont__panic wrote: post #82
cxr wrote: post #18

PSA: enable CORS[1] so people can make cross-origin requests without having to run a proxy. PSA #2: set things up so the author field of your feed includes your email address (e.g. "Alice ") and not just your bare name, so people can more easily get in touch with you without having to click through to the original post and then hunt around for your contact page; otherwise, you might never find out it's broken[2]. 1.…

Curious why you recommend 1). Personally, I just don't use Javascript in my blog posts. But maybe I'm missing a use-case here? I should really add my email address to my news feed though.

I don't understand your remark about "Javascript in my blog posts" or how it relates to CORS.

In theory, it should be trivial to make simple, truly "serverless", web-based feed readers like AirSS[1][2]. In practice, many people are prevented from doing this, because the feeds they're interested in are hosted on servers that don't support CORS, which leads to really annoying workarounds (like needing to use a proxy or a separate browser extension, etc.)

1. https://github.com/derek-zhou/airss>

2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28730630>

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Post by googlryas »

djbusby wrote: post #96
robalni wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://github.com/robalni/twitch-shell

All in bash!, well done, neat usage of `nc` in there too.

Not only bash but some of the more readable shell script I've seen. OP, if you're reading this, is that an idiomatic style or did you learn the style from some well known source?

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Post by funksta »

NoboruWataya wrote: post #52

Does anyone use (or know of) software that follows RSS feeds and sends you a single daily/weekly/whatever digest with links to all new posts? TinyTinyRSS has this functionality which I am currently using but it's not very pretty or configurable - I'm wondering if there is anything else that I could look into.

I am building something like this! It's oriented specifically towards reading the feeds via a pdf digest on eReaders like the reMarkable/Supernote/etc though.

1. configure your feeds (RSS/Atom, but also Twitter/Reddit) in a simple dashboard 2. connect Google Drive (Dropbox/OneDrive to be supported eventually) 3. on a daily schedule, a pdf file with your feeds' content will be sent to your GDrive account, which can be synced on your tablet device.

If interested, I've got a survey you can fill out to get alpha access: https://forms.gle/qmy6WMgHLxWiEgx4A

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Post by superkuh »

HN is a great place to gather RSS feeds. Any time there's an interesting site I always look for them. These days I usually see articles that appear on the HN front page a day or so before they hit HN. But HN isn't the only place I practice this. Back in the 2010s it was obvious reddit was going under so I did the same there till 2015. I have 1000+ RSS feeds now and very little need for news aggregators on the day to day (except finding new feeds).

QuiteRSS is an excellent native reader that handles my thousands of feeds well. It is so multi-platform it even has an OS/2 version. https://quiterss.org/

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