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Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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Post by gbro3n »

uh_uh wrote: post #90
gbro3n wrote: post #81

The most sensible use for AI that I can see at this time is for supporting humans in their work, but only where the system is set up so that the human has to do the work first, with the AI system looking for possible errors. For example the human drives the car, and the AI brakes when it senses dangerous conditions ahead, or the human screens test results for evidence of cancer and the AI flags where it disagrees so…

Humans are also less than perfect systems. Especially if they have to deal with monotonous tasks. A human might perform better on a 100 entries than an AI, but on 10 thousand? Of course you can distribute the workload, but you will balloon the costs (I'm talking about a future where GPT3 costs come down). There must be a set of projects which are cost prohibited now due to having to pay humans but will become feasibl…

This is a good point. There is some work that just wont be done unless it can be automated, and in that case work with a higher rate of error is preferable to no work at all.

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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Post by gbro3n »

leereeves wrote: post #83
gbro3n wrote: post #81

The most sensible use for AI that I can see at this time is for supporting humans in their work, but only where the system is set up so that the human has to do the work first, with the AI system looking for possible errors. For example the human drives the car, and the AI brakes when it senses dangerous conditions ahead, or the human screens test results for evidence of cancer and the AI flags where it disagrees so…

I mostly agree. Happily, that's also what people will want as long as human participation is necessary. We'd generally prefer to write rather than correct an AI's writing, and prefer to drive rather than carefully watch an AI drive. But when the AI is capable of something the person can't do (like Stable Diffusion creating images compared to me) the AI should take first chair.

This is a good point. Where less than perfect AI is better than the alternative, it is useful.

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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Post by elil17 »

pbmango wrote: post #68

There is a huge potential for language models to get close to messy text problems (many of which are in Excel and Sheet). I am the founder of promptloop.com - the author of this tweet has been an early user. The challenge to making something like this, or Co-pilot / Ghostwrite, work well is about meeting users where they are. Spreadsheet users dont want to deal with API keys or know what temperature is - but anyone (…

Any plans to bring this to Excel? I would love to recommend this to folks at my company but we aren't allowed to use G-Suite.

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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Post by Petersipoi »

dylan604 wrote: post #18
Imnimo wrote: post #11

The ability of language models to do zero-shot tasks like this is cool and all, but there is no way you should actually be doing something like this on data you care about. Like think about how much compute is going into trying to autofill a handful of zip codes, and you're still getting a bunch of them wrong.

I've used/added the USPS API into a system and it took practically no time at all to do it. I'm guessing that is significantly less time than building an AI tool. What's worse is that the thing that takes the least time to implement actually provides good data.

Obviously adding the USPS API to your tool would take less time than building an AI tool. But the AI tool is infinitely more powerful for almost anything other than dealing with addresses.

So the question isn't which one you can add to your tool faster. The question is, if I already have this AI tool setup, is it worth setting up the USPS API to go from 95% accuracy to 99.9% accuracy. For countless applications, it wouldn't be. Obviously if you need to scale and need to ensure accuracy, it's a different story.

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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Post by pbmango »

elil17 wrote: post #93
pbmango wrote: post #68

There is a huge potential for language models to get close to messy text problems (many of which are in Excel and Sheet). I am the founder of promptloop.com - the author of this tweet has been an early user. The challenge to making something like this, or Co-pilot / Ghostwrite, work well is about meeting users where they are. Spreadsheet users dont want to deal with API keys or know what temperature is - but anyone (…

Any plans to bring this to Excel? I would love to recommend this to folks at my company but we aren't allowed to use G-Suite.

Yes - Not open access yet but drop me an email!

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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Post by trialskid86 »

wesleyyue wrote: post #94

Also check out https://usedouble.com (YC W23) if you're interested in using something like this today. Note: I'm the founder :) Happy to answer any questions. Reply below with some sample data/problem and I'll reply with a demo to see if we can solve it out of the box!

Just signed up. How long is the wait list?

Re: Demo of =GPT3() as a spreadsheet feature

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Post by armchairhacker »

gbro3n wrote: post #81

The most sensible use for AI that I can see at this time is for supporting humans in their work, but only where the system is set up so that the human has to do the work first, with the AI system looking for possible errors. For example the human drives the car, and the AI brakes when it senses dangerous conditions ahead, or the human screens test results for evidence of cancer and the AI flags where it disagrees so…

This won’t work because humans are lazy and fundamentally wired to expend the least amount of effort possible. Just the belief that you have an AI that will correct your mistakes, will make people expend less effort (even subconsciously), until it completely cancels out any additional error correction from the AI. Plus, workers will hate the fact that an AI could automatically do exactly what they are doing but they are doing it manually for “error correction”.

It only works the opposite way, where machines and AI handle the trivial cases and humans handle the non-trivial ones. Many people actually genuinely like to solve hard problems which require thinking and skill, most people strongly dislike mundane repetitive tasks.

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