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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by ceejayoz »

CPLX wrote: post #66
topaz0 wrote: post #42

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Copaganda, a shorthand for the tendency of police communications officials to make wildly false statements to influence public opinion, is indeed a real issue. What does it have to do with an opinion poll like this though?

Copaganda also describes true but misleading statements, and includes things like news organizations naïvely taking the cops at their word, shows like CSI and Law & Order, etc.

In this case, "Any item stolen from you?" seems to include having an Amazon package stolen off your porch, which happens widely (including to me) here in suburban upstate NY too.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by dpkirchner »

jjitz wrote: post #52
testfrequency wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ll be sure to develop a Cartel app for Miami, a Kidnapping app for the state of Texas, and a Homeless app for Denver so you have more content to post in the future

SF has a homeless population like 5x that of Denver even though the cities are of comparable sizes.

I'd guess Denver's lower rate of homelessness could have something to do with its average overnight temperatures.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by mmmpop »

uvdn7 wrote: post #75

I am genuinely curious about what’s the appeal of SF?

The weather is mild and predictable for large portions of the year. Good seafood, killer Asian cuisine, and Union Square has an AG store for your quality pant needs. What more could one want?

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by i_like_apis »

wanderingmind wrote: post #69
crazygringo wrote: post #59

I mean if a single package being stolen from your porch counts, then I'm surprised it isn't higher over five years . And porch pirates abound in suburbia too. The actual scary thefts are home breakins and muggings. I feel like the headline wants you to think it's those, when it's mostly stolen packages or something.

"There are lies, damn lies and then statistics"-- Mark Twain EDIT: I'm not claiming for or against this specific article, just saying people need to be wary when reading such statistics as there are lot of parameters that influence such a headline number

Nothing is twisted in my assessment. Theft is rampant in SF.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by cft »

nxm wrote: post #78
cft wrote: post #65

There's an important line that SF has not crossed (yet): murder still causes police response. In a decade or so, it will be like most large Latin American cities: murder will cause same lackluster police response as currently car break-ins do. Rich will have their own security, and poor will be afraid to walk after dark.

Sadly I worry this will be the case. Meanwhile all the “defund the police” politicians will have plenty of armed guards to protect them

I wanted to add: unlike our virtuous downvoters, i have been traveling for 5 years, and i have actually been to most Latin American capitals: Guatemala City, San Salvador, Tegucigalpa, Managua, etc... It's not the immigrants from those places that thieve , but the government of SF is like that of Managua.

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Post by cwal37 »

omot wrote: post #16
grubbs wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never totally understood the attraction to it. Come live here in Baltimore. Plenty of tech jobs and a nice home in the city will cost 300k.

For me there's no city in the US as walkable as NYC or SF. NYC is super busy, but I just like how I could bike / walk / transit virtually anywhere within the city.

I dunno, I think Chicago is certainly more walkable and less car-dependent than SF. Then you have DC, which probably is (substantially more public transit at least) as well, and even cities like Minneapolis which are probably more amenable to walking over a larger area than the actual core, downtown SF area.

SF has ok public transit for the west coast I suppose. But overall it’s quite poor compared to the east coast from DC north, or a city like Chicago.

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Post by BoorishBears »

testfrequency wrote: post #40
dymk wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That places better than SF exist and people are moving to them.

Why is everything “better” or “worse”. City vs. City. This is such a lame argument and only feeds whoever is seeking validation that they live in right place

I agree to a point. You can't say LA is better than NYC. You can't say London is better than Tokyo. It all depends.

But sometimes this is like comparing a little league team to an MLB team: For example, you can say NYC is better than SF.

For every axis that SF is better on, NYC is 10x better on 10 others. Like you could argue the foggy weather is better because there's no snow... but then: food, transportation, global importance, crime (even when you account for violent crime specifically), long-term prospects...

SF can't even keep a Target open past 8.

At the start of the year I moved to SF from NYC, so I'm not validating anything by the way.

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