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It is. We're getting paid peanuts compared to our American counterparts and we do the same work . What's worse is we pay higher taxes. The only way this changes is by European tech workers standing together and demanding matched salaries.
Well it's fair that your payment is adapted to the cost of living in your country/area.
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... Am I the only one looking at American companies offering me 3-digits salaries and going "holy shit, that's a really good deal"? In my case, the company is extremely accommodating and doesn't schedule reunions at hours that are inconvenient for me, but even if they did, I'd still consider it worth it for the compensation they give out. I dunno. Maybe I could get an even better deal if I pushed hard or if I unioniz…
3 digits? So up to $999/year? That sounds extremely low. In the US salaries are done per year, so a 6-figure salary is >=$100,000/year. Do you mean as an hourly wage? That would be $200,000+/year and a 6-figure salary.
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> It’s just a sweat shop. Amazon engineer salaries are in the 90th+ percentile in the tech industry -- let's not bother comparing them to the typical American's income. They have almost unlimited mobility in their industry: They can find a job elsewhere anytime they want. I remember you mentioning elsewhere that in 10 years of working at Amazon you're now financially independent. This isn't the outcome you usually se…
The dollars per hour worked ratio is trash at Amazon though. All amazonians would jump to Google if they could. The reverse is quite rare.
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What does WITCH stand for here? Haven't seen that acronym before
The first company that came to mind was Wipro, which led me to this: W- Wipro I- Infosys T- TCS C- Cognizant H- HCL A- Accenture India. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27571707
> The same Times investigation reported the company “intentionally limited upward mobility for hourly workers,” according to David Niekerk, a former Amazon HR Vice President. It’s not just for hourly workers. I was actively coached on holding promotions as a carrot. My leadership team would commit to unrealistic dates, taking input and estimates from dev teams but hand wave it. Amazon applies pressure on L7 and L6 so…
That isn't a nobody. He was a major HR guy for Amazon for over 15 years. I knew his name in passing when I was working there, and met his daughter who was a rising star at the warehouse in Phoenix.
Wild to hear him speaking out against Amazon when he honestly built a lot of the system.
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Well it's fair that your payment is adapted to the cost of living in your country/area.
No it isn't. You're doing the same work. It is fair to get paid the same for the same work.
As an employee I want to be paid the highest that anyone else is paid for the same work. More so if the value generated is the same regardless of location. Yet I can understand employers wanting to help maintain sustainable communities, even where cost of living is high.
Governments too want some control over their currencies and its value.
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No it isn't. You're doing the same work. It is fair to get paid the same for the same work.
Do people pay plumbers the same in SF as they do in Charlotte? As an employee I want to be paid the highest that anyone else is paid for the same work. More so if the value generated is the same regardless of location. Yet I can understand employers wanting to help maintain sustainable communities, even where cost of living is high. Governments too want some control over their currencies and its value.
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The difference is that Bob's fulfillment isn't a billion dollar company with a CEO skimming billions of the top for himself. Bob probably pays himself a few times what his lowest paid employee makes. Bezos makes more money in a day than his lowest paid worker will earn in a lifetime.
So? Basically Bezos is able to make money while treating his employees better than competition and paying them more than competition... and I should be mad because he could pay them more if he wanted?
It worked for Walmart, and now Walmart is a trash company with trash products that treats their employees like trash while paying them such a low amount that many of them are on food stamps and government support and then keeping their schedules so screwed up that they can't better themselves out of the horrible situation without herculean efforts.
Amazon is following this pattern and will continue following it until market forces make them stop. And those forces do not exist and probably will not ever exist as long as there is money available for the desperate.
Oh, doesn't that go against the Amazon leadership principle of... frugality?
> The same Times investigation reported the company “intentionally limited upward mobility for hourly workers,” according to David Niekerk, a former Amazon HR Vice President. It’s not just for hourly workers. I was actively coached on holding promotions as a carrot. My leadership team would commit to unrealistic dates, taking input and estimates from dev teams but hand wave it. Amazon applies pressure on L7 and L6 so…