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One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

#91

why does this even matter? As a european i just don't get it, i use a iPhone have in the past used Android most of my friends and family use Android no one cares.

The problem for us was not the color of the bubbles but the issue of android users not being able to join imessage group chats. My family solved the problem by using whatsapp.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, no one uses plain sms messages across the pond any more. And sms group chats? I only know about sms group chats from US posters. You can just assume everyone has Whatsapp here, and just message them over that.

> You can just assume everyone has Whatsapp here, and just message them over that. Yea but that's a problem too.

WhatsApp doesn't have anywhere near the same lockin as Apple. You can run multiple messaging apps even on a low end android phone.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

#93
This seems super cherry picked and disingenuous.

The colors of both blue and green messages fade as they scroll up. Looking at my phone right now, the lighter contrast the author seems to be calling out is only shown on a message that is scrolled up. This is the same with blue imessage bubbles, they also fade and have lower contrast when scrolled up.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

#94

I've never heard an actual human express noticing or caring about the color of the bubble.

Me either, and the adults I know, don't even seem to know the difference.

I often get people trying to send me videos or files via SMS (I have an Android, and I guess it normally works for them when sending to other Apple users).

(I say adults, because I often hear kids use it as a status symbol or way to exclude other kids from group messages. I will have to ask the kids I work with what they think about message color bubbles.)

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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This seems to be mostly a US American thing, mainly because of the same reasons BBM was a thing: lots of chats over SMS used to be a thing, and then chats over iMessage, which like BBM, you can only join if you have a device from a specific vendor. That means that you can only be in a special social circle if you buy the same stuff. That won't change because of some colours, because it's not the colours causing the t…

Yeah, no one uses plain sms messages across the pond any more. And sms group chats? I only know about sms group chats from US posters. You can just assume everyone has Whatsapp here, and just message them over that.

Using Facebook to do messaging? No thanks! Sure, when communicating with international friends I use WhatsApp because that appears to be what the rest of the world uses, but here in the States? No. We don't trust Zuckerberg. And yes, iMessage group chats are very much a thing here in the States and SMS group chats in general. And also yes, there's always that techie friend with an Android and makes your whole conversation go "green." Thing is, only middle schoolers really seem to care. I just know it means the communication isn't secured end-to-end.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

#96

No one here read the article, it has nothing to do with it being green but with it being low contrast.

I'm not sure if you're imploring us not to read the article because the title sucks.

Or admonishing us for not reading the article, because we've misunderstood it based on the title.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

#97
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A large problem with this whole idea is that there is no one single blue or green involved. iMessage shades the bubbles depending on position, and shows both the blue and green bubbles as darker at the bottom of the screen, and lighter at the top.

So, then compare them at a similar position?

A side-by-side screenshot of iOS 7, when this design was introduced:

https://i.insider.com/5df902c5fd9db27769749a5f?width=1300&fo...

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

#98

This seems to be mostly a US American thing, mainly because of the same reasons BBM was a thing: lots of chats over SMS used to be a thing, and then chats over iMessage, which like BBM, you can only join if you have a device from a specific vendor. That means that you can only be in a special social circle if you buy the same stuff. That won't change because of some colours, because it's not the colours causing the t…

> This deep integration with colours and status symbols does remain in specific areas like middle school where it is still seen as important to try to project wealth.

Are the kids wrong?

When I look at my app’s stats, Android users are worse in every way.

More expensive to develop for, pay less or none at all, and their halo effect is sometimes negative: they might word-of-mouth my app to more Android users instead of more iOS users.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

#99

Whenever I see this iMessage/SMS, blue/green topic come up I descend into an internal debate that, as I get older, I am becoming increasingly familiar with. The debate is that one where I am forced to reconcile whether I am too far removed from popular culture to see how this is a real issue versus accepting that the issue is entirely contrived.

It's certainly an issue with a lot of teenagers. Speaking broadly, social status and brands say a lot at that age, and you could miss out on friends or social occasions based on it.

As an adult of course the green/blue bubbles simply don't matter, we grow up and realise that, but it certainly is a significant issue if it's affecting young peoples lives.

So I'd say it's somewhere inbetween what you descibe, perhaps a bit contrived, but also could have a significant impact on some people.

Side note - I have heard of people saying they won't date green or blue bubble people, but of course if someone takes that point of view as an adult then it's a good indicator to show how they think.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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This is a clickbait. On my iPhone the green color is much darker than what the author shows in the article. Here are some images with the hex color codes for example: https://imgur.com/a/7k5dMtm

It's actually really cherry-picked samples. All messages (blue and green) in the Messages app fade out slightly as you scroll. The author picked a blue message from the bottom of the screen and a green one from the top. If only they scrolled around a bit... they would have noticed.

Also the article doesn't mention that the iMessage blue also fails the same WCAG test. I just ran it myself.
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