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Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program

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Post by pknerd »

Instead of coming up with a new project, why just they do not provide a community edition for each of their products? Currently they provide a CE edition for PyCharm only?

I remember I loved the initial version of Goland a lot but found out it is not free and expired after a while, I switched back to VSCode and did not regret at all

Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program

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Post by ksec »

__warlord__ wrote: post #73

I installed this 30 min ago. 1. My M1 temp went from 28c to 60c 2. CPU utilization to 103%? 3. It's using 3.29Gb of RAM And it hasn't changed. With a single python project with 3k lines of code. VSCode sits at 280Mb and CPU temp around 28c. Edit: Vim + SpaceVim sitting at 17Mb :)

I think, correct me if I am wrong, Fleet is written in Kotlin, hence running on top of JVM. ( I am assuming Kotlin Native not being used yet )

While I dont think VSCode is fast and lean when compared to Sublime or other Native Editor. It is well optimised.

I do wonder if Fleet could catch up or even exceed VSC in the performance / resources usage department.

Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program

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Post by bluelightning2k »

I have read all the comments on this thread.

I'm fascinated by people's thoughts of VSC Vs JetBrains.

It seems the consensus is that JB is better, except for web platform?

Maybe this is because TypeScript is an excellent language server

Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program

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Post by yrgulation »

amitport wrote: post #90
yrgulation wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same kind of monopoly microsoft was accused it was when providing free media player and free browser apps. This is just the same type of market abuse except its leveraging people’s free work and not pre installing it inside its own os’. Perhaps you should learn law indeed.

Giving something for free is not monopoly (without preinstallation). You can say other things about this strategy, but you're misusing the word.

The price of acquisition is 0$ but costs telemetry and branding. So microsoft is charging you for this just not money. Even if that wouldnt be the case microsoft did distribute ie and the media player for free, so there is precedence. It may not be distributed part of the os but it is a product set at a price that severely undercuts competition. Worse even the product is developed using free labour yet microsoft benefits in brand recognition. Google does it and in the process it killed plenty of startups or small businesses and got grief for it yet microsoft can get away with it.

Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program

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Post by OrvalWintermute »

mgkimsal wrote: post #65
jmondi wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, it is basically about a 100% chance that the next employer will pay for JB. I couldn’t imagine an employer refusing to pay $120/yr for a JB license for an employee they are already paying $180,000/yr.

It's more than $120/year for an employee. https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#commercial?billing=yearl... Reduced pricing in year 2 and 3, but up front it's $600/year. And... while someone's base pay may be a lot, these sorts of 'extras' might come from a different budget. And when there are a dozen services you're paying $20-$50/month/seat for, I know some managers start to scrutinize things a bit more. "Can't you j…

The pricing for All Products Pack was initially much less( $249.00 in 2016), and since then, it became one of the minor bills that you just pay because it is so little.

I really like the licensing model they employ.

Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program

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Post by frou_dh »

HideousKojima wrote: post #88
dmitriid wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For some reason, some people are very reluctant to pay for tools, even though they use them every day in their job. This also really baffles me. You can see it a lot in various discussions even here on HN.

Because if your tooling is closed source (and if it's paid it almost certainly is) then your ability to maintain a project is dependent on some corporation's willingness to continue to support the tooling etc.

Not really in the case of Jetbrains vs VScode, because if the fateful day came, it would simply be an inconvenience to have to set up the alternative, not the end of the world.
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