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Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by thriftwy »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #21

The Ukrainian-Russo war has shown the military the power of offensive drones. You think they are going to allow civilians to own such powerful potential weapons in the future? I think offensive drone warfare is just scratching the surface. I can think of a few modifications to drones, I've yet to see in Ukraine, that could increase their lethality 10x.

Both sides are purchasing these specific DJI drones in large quantities to be used by personnel on the ground to spot each other. It is a commodity not unlike binoculars were a century ago.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by xani_ »

z9znz wrote: post #14

Do other countries put US hardware and software companies on blacklists for their involvement with DoD? If so, then I think quite a few major US tech companies would be unable to do business outside the US and Europe.

We got some recent movements in trying to basically say "if it's US company it doesn't comply by GDPR", because US laws require companies to snitch on demand

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Post by inphovore »

magic_hamster wrote: post #3

They are absolutely right to do this, and private users should be wary as well. DJI's application (Mimo) has been banned from the Android Play Store for some time, with no explanation given by DJI. They offer an APK to side load, which is completely unsupervised, and requires access to your phone's accurate location and other invasive permissions no matter which of their products you are using. This is an important d…

> Aljazeera is comically ridiculous

Aljazeera is a model of journalism excellence and integrity!

Is this about their cookie warning? They’re obligated to say something.

If you don’t take their journalism seriously, you deceive yourself!

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Post by sgtnoodle »

mschuster91 wrote: post #32
magic_hamster wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While this is interesting (broadcast to whom exactly?) my main point is that DJI demands access to your smartphone location even for products that clearly have no use for this information, while giving you a sideloaded app which is banned from the official store. To me, these point to a trust issue.

> While this is interesting (broadcast to whom exactly?) It's hard to find any information about how Remote-ID is supposed to work, but in theory the ID packets are sent by WiFi NAN and Bluetooth so that they can be received by anyone in the radio range (which is quite important for authorities to track down violators, e.g. people flying around hospital helipads). Unfortunately, current phones seem to lack support ha…

I'm not familiar with the EU side of things, but I am familiar with the FAA's regulations in the USA.

The FAA hasn't specified an implementation. It's on the manufacturer to come up with a means of compliance, and then get the FAA to sign off on it. There is a standard put out by the ASTM, which is heavily based on an open source project, OpenDroneID.

The standard moved away from NAN in the draft phase, in favor of vendor elements in 802.11 beacon frames. You can choose 802.11 or Bluetooth Low Energy. If you choose 802.11, 2.4ghz is required and 5ghz is recommended. If you choose BLE, v4 is required, and doing v5 as well is recommended.

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Post by alasdair_ »

inphovore wrote: post #93
magic_hamster wrote: post #3

They are absolutely right to do this, and private users should be wary as well. DJI's application (Mimo) has been banned from the Android Play Store for some time, with no explanation given by DJI. They offer an APK to side load, which is completely unsupervised, and requires access to your phone's accurate location and other invasive permissions no matter which of their products you are using. This is an important d…

> Aljazeera is comically ridiculous Aljazeera is a model of journalism excellence and integrity! Is this about their cookie warning? They’re obligated to say something. If you don’t take their journalism seriously, you deceive yourself!

>Aljazeera is a model of journalism excellence and integrity!

There are really two versions of Aljazeera. The Western-facing one is pretty good (although it sometimes has Russia Today vibes on certain topics). The non-Western version is tabloid nonsense.

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Post by collegeburner »

jetanoia wrote: post #11
magic_hamster wrote: post #3

They are absolutely right to do this, and private users should be wary as well. DJI's application (Mimo) has been banned from the Android Play Store for some time, with no explanation given by DJI. They offer an APK to side load, which is completely unsupervised, and requires access to your phone's accurate location and other invasive permissions no matter which of their products you are using. This is an important d…

fyi the aljazeera screenshot doesn’t show the dji article - just a cookie disclosure. Was the ‘ridiculous’ part in the article? Or their saying that the cookie gives “voice to the voiceless”. (Which is funny)

it's ridiculous that the propaganda arm of a totalitarian illiberal petrostate claims to "give a voice to the voiceless" or "promote truth and transparency". i also really dislike them because their "aj+" brand puts out heavily left biased faux-intellectual junk similar to vox or buzzfeed which makes me want to punch through a wall regardless of who puts it out.

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Post by collegeburner »

1-6 wrote: post #88

Disappointed that grassroots drone companies such as 3DR died as a result of aggressive Chinese companies such as DJI pushing good quality drones for less. Now the US market has lesser alternatives and we’re having to go back to hobby kits to build anything similar to a DJI.

fr i don't think it's a coincidence that our market has been flooded by software-controlled chinesium. not to get too tinfoil-hatty but it makes sense from the chinese perspective.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by andrei_says_ »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #82
firecall wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assault Rifles seem to be ok for the US government to place into the hands of US civilians.

Agree. But I think the idea of flying a bomb into someone's car (the first thing that came to mind when I thought about it for a few seconds) is, to the powerful, a whole 'nother level of terror. Not to be so cynical/dark, but I'm surprised to have not yet heard of a targeted assassination done by an amateur with an off-the-shelf drone. I have to admit the idea is frightening.

Remember the D.C. Sniper attacks?

Not sure if grenades are as available to the public as bullets and if I remember correctly bombs are illegal to make.

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