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This is a very simplistic view of the tensions in the region, which have been ongoing for decades. Just as the US has reason to retaliate against Saudi Arabia, many other places could also have reasons to push the ruling family out of power and gain influence. It also fails to account for the autonomy of the people there. Is it really so hard to believe that they are rebelling against authoritarianism? Even if there…
> This is a very simplistic view of the tensions in the region That is a very simplistic, and correct view of how the US manipulates such tensions. There are many of us international HNers, whose countries suffered multiple US backed coups or color revolutions, and even worse, whose grassroots popular movements were co-opted and subverted by the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_(Polish_trade_union... So m…
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Ah yes, the typical astounding secular definition of freedom, equating it with nakedness and vices. I’ll tell you something, the vast majority of the Saudis are proud of the Hijab and their Islamic faith that promotes purity and decency. We don’t want the western definition of “freedom” thank you very much, we’ve seen where it leads
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Ah yes, the typical astounding secular definition of freedom, equating it with nakedness and vices. I’ll tell you something, the vast majority of the Saudis are proud of the Hijab and their Islamic faith that promotes purity and decency. We don’t want the western definition of “freedom” thank you very much, we’ve seen where it leads
It leads to people showing the hair in their heads, that is the normal way in our species. Including the majority of the muslim population and the majority of the human population. If you think this is the same as being naked in public or that women's hair is impure, well... You live in a very sad place and deserve compassion. It really sucks to be you, but your pain is self-inflicted. Enjoying the feminine grace and…
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I’m not a Muslim but agnostic and agree that “freedom” is poorly defined and subjective like “idea” of America which is empty cipher. Ruling class of US idea of freedom is for citizens to be free to take on debt and live precarious alienated life with not a small portion dying in abject poverty and increasingly alone.
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#95Don't know about CIA conspiracies but I'm sure Saudi Arabians will protest Hijab mandates one day. Freedom is amazing and every human craves it at some level.
Ah yes, the typical astounding secular definition of freedom, equating it with nakedness and vices. I’ll tell you something, the vast majority of the Saudis are proud of the Hijab and their Islamic faith that promotes purity and decency. We don’t want the western definition of “freedom” thank you very much, we’ve seen where it leads
Besides, the woman that was killed in custody that started this whole mess in Iran was hardly "naked", quite far from it.
It's not the west's fault that people lack so much self-control they can't handle anything but a hijab. In my opinion that speaks incredibly poorly, if anything that means folks shold spend more time looking inward than foolishly crying out for divine protection
Moralism is far more responsible for a society's ills than "decadence" ever will be
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The fact that the US orchestrated a coup in 1953 proves that the US is also orchestrating this coup today? That's the argument?
It obviously means there's reason to be suspicious. It took 60 years for the US to admit its role in the 1953 coup.
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I have never met a single person that isn’t a Chinese propogandaist that actually believes Taiwan is a part of China. It’s such an obvious calling card.
Literally every country in the world, including the USA, believes that Taiwan is a part of China. You're extremely uninformed on this matter.
That’s like saying “I understand you believe that the sky is pink.”
Hence she the US refers to it as strategic ambiguity. This is the same position that the likes of NZ and AU have.
So don’t go telling people they are uninformed when clearly you’re just here spreading propaganda.
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> This is a very simplistic view of the tensions in the region That is a very simplistic, and correct view of how the US manipulates such tensions. There are many of us international HNers, whose countries suffered multiple US backed coups or color revolutions, and even worse, whose grassroots popular movements were co-opted and subverted by the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_(Polish_trade_union... So m…
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Not in the age of covid. A lot of young people suffered various heart conditions in the past 3 years.
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It leads to people showing the hair in their heads, that is the normal way in our species. Including the majority of the muslim population and the majority of the human population. If you think this is the same as being naked in public or that women's hair is impure, well... You live in a very sad place and deserve compassion. It really sucks to be you, but your pain is self-inflicted. Enjoying the feminine grace and…
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Ah yes, the typical astounding secular definition of freedom, equating it with nakedness and vices. I’ll tell you something, the vast majority of the Saudis are proud of the Hijab and their Islamic faith that promotes purity and decency. We don’t want the western definition of “freedom” thank you very much, we’ve seen where it leads
How does GP's statement have anything to do with "nakedness" and "vices". Those appear to be your words, dude. Besides, the woman that was killed in custody that started this whole mess in Iran was hardly "naked", quite far from it. It's not the west's fault that people lack so much self-control they can't handle anything but a hijab. In my opinion that speaks incredibly poorly, if anything that means folks shold spe…
I'm not defending the Iranian regime by the way.
You're straw manning to assume that the Hijab's only reason is lack of self control. It's one part of many things that we have in Islam to preserve morality and purity. For example, both men and women are ordered to lower their gaze.
I'm not moralizing here. I'm defending my religion and land from the assumption of the secular west that they're here to liberate us from "oppression".