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Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Why would this transition ever happen? Network effect is too strong. How open-sourcedness of an alternative would help with this fact?

network effects are overcome all the time. all the social networks are dying sooner or later. even facebook is panicking because they're losing the next generation and instagram is panically trying to emulate tiktok or whatever because they have _something_.

MySpace

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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> I intend to do this work and fix our mistakes Sounds like every other billionaire who once they have one foot in the grave rediscover themselves as philanthropists... You can't fix it Jack, you fucked it up big time and shitting out yet another platform won't ever make it better

Agreed. He's milked this cow for a decade and now wants to pivot in to being one of the good guys (TM), and show us cool new things about decentralized computing, by ignoring all the projects out there 10 years in.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Considering Dorsey's active participation and evangelising on Bitcoin and the Lightning Network, I expect that he will be working in that direction; building a messaging protocol based on the Lighting Network that allows users to upvote with satoshis. This monetises the user engagement and makes bots less feasible, aligning user incentives.

"Upvoting messages with currency" is literally describing what advertising is.

Except that you can limit to 1 upvote per account, and use (centralized) moderation to handle sybil attacks by removing upvotes with discretion.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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post #23

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Dorsey is an engineer

And so is Musk.

Is the work you do to your credit or your boss's? I fundamentally reject the argument that being financially invested in engineering projects makes him an engineer.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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post #17

This is quite interesting to see because Jack has plenty of stock in twitter obviously? So it kind of shows that he doesn’t really care about profits, instead he wants to do more interesting thing, what a geek, just like all of us lol. Or the other way to see it is that he felt that twitter can’t be saved and he wants to create a new profitable thing.. who knows about how billionaires think

> So it kind of shows that he doesn’t really care about profits Even without twitter he's a multi billionaire

If twitter was a protocol, in all likelyhood he would not have become a multi millionaire let alone a millionaire.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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post #49

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Can you provide some examples?

He thought you could return a rocket from space and have it land vertically

And then, he returned a rocket from space and had it land vertically. Heck he's doing it consistently, and even synchronized on occasion.

Musk is a flawed dude, but the physics behind space-x aren't his weak point.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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> Twitter started as a protocol. It should have never been a company. That was the original sin. Dorsey seems to have figured it out.

Considering Dorsey's active participation and evangelising on Bitcoin and the Lightning Network, I expect that he will be working in that direction; building a messaging protocol based on the Lighting Network that allows users to upvote with satoshis. This monetises the user engagement and makes bots less feasible, aligning user incentives.

It sounds good at first, but then the biggest issue is that a platform like this becomes really susceptible to manipulation/pushing an agenda etc. Anonymous 'vote buying' is even worse than working with ads.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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post #72

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Companies are AI. http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/companies_are_ai.html

More like complex organisms existing within and alongside other massive complex organisms. Nothing artificial about it?

Bacteria, either symbiotic or not. Some are outright cancerous growth, though.

Then again, my opinion on organized religion is the same, without the symbiotic aspect.

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