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Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#91

I can't believe how many people here still use Google search and Chrome browser.

Unfortunately quite some things only work entirely on Chrome. My default is still Firefox but it’s no getting around it at times.

I use brave browser for those sites. Alas, it is still chrome underneath...

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#92

Annoyingly, the new tab page used to have an exclusion for these "announcements". The flag was removed. I've ended up installing one of those "inspirational new tab page" extensions, just so I don't see an ad. I am sure that means someone else is siphoning my data.

Both in Chrome and Firefox, I always set my new tab page to `about:blank`, or in other words, absolutely nothing. Why? Because the address bar is all I need to get where I'm going. I type faster than I click.

There's no setting to set the new tab page in Chrome - not even in the policies json.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#93
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox has ads too. At least you can turn them off, until they add another category and you have to go figure out how to turn off the new ones.

I don't think I've ever seen a single ad on Firefox (including on any website thanks to uBlock working better on FF than anywhere else), what ads are you talking about?

There are ads in the urlbar, ads on the newtab page, ads, ads, ads!

This is on desktop.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#94
post #64

Proves the saying, "If you are not paying for the product, you are the product"

No website I have worked for has ever called users the product. The products are what is being built by various teams. For ads the product at a high level is everything from the parts that show ads to users to the tools that allow advertisers to create ads.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#95
post #62

Stupidity is contagious. If MS does it, why should't Google ?

I wouldn't say it is stupidity. MS seems to have stopped innovating and exploit as much of their business before it dies. Possibly Google realised the same?

If IBM is any indication, it takes decades for big corp to die.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#96

It was inevitable, you gotta get the infite growth from somewhere. Ane the next move will +1 this and so on, until google becomes less attractive than leaner competition. Because of inertia, legacy and people benefitting from the status quo, they won't be able to correct course. This is textbook "how empire falls" and why things that seem indestructible eventually dies like anything else. This will be the mile stone…

How would they +1 this? Require users to watch two ads Youtube-style before rendering a website? Place a persistent banner ad along the bottom of the browser window?

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#97

I can't believe how many people here still use Google search and Chrome browser.

Why is this so surprising? Google search gives me better results than DuckDuckGo for my purposes (especially when using the "site:" search syntax). Some web apps and websites are buggy on non-Chrome browsers or a lot faster on Chrome (e.g. Google Workspace apps like Google Sheets are often a lot faster).

If I want to submit high quality work on time, it makes sense to use the best (most performant) tool for the job. Firefox, DuckDuckGo, and other alternative tools are helpful for personal use, but I have less to worry about when using Google and Chrome for work.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#98
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this harms their business then why would they keep doing it

Harms it long term, makes money short term.

Long term, systemic damage to both product and company reputation.

Google Stadia case in point. Nobody serious backed Stadia because almost everyone expected Google to kill it off so nobody jumped to it and then it was inevitably killed off because it didn't bring in the cash Google was expecting. Even when the stars had aligned for them with the pandemic and supply shortages that should have given them tons of players Google just couldn't convince enough people to go for it.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are high level talks going on about the sustainability of some of this exact lines of thinking. Chasing growth organically is fine. Artificially generating it by shifting costs or cutting corners elsewhere to maintain the illusion of growth eventually sinks the whole ship.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#99
post #33

I woke up to ads in my new tab page in Firefox yesterday; sponsored links to Amazon and Nike. Browsers don't seem to serve users anymore. They, like everything else, are mostly ad delivery mechanisms.

Librewolf

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#100
Not entirely unprecedented:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18800175 ("Mozilla: Ad on Firefox’s new tab page was just another experiment" (2019))

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30608022 ("Why am I seeing this adorable red panda?") (2022)

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