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Re: Flanderization

#91

This applies to more than just cartoons. Look at Seinfeld. First 3 seasons, the characters were real, each w/ their own personalties, quirks, etc. By the final season, each character became so extreme, so one-dimentional in it's characterization and personalities it was entirely unwatchable (at the time) for me.

Many shows seem to fall into this. Silicon Valley is another example where it happened to almost all characters except erlich and jian yang who were already extreme caricatures

Re: Flanderization

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As you age, the rewards you get from social conformity become less and less important because your social role starts to be squeezed in general. Pop culture stops catering to you as much, you are less likely to multiply intimate partners or discover new friends or change your circle to a great extent, though obviously this is a vague trend and there are tons of exceptions to this. From your own perspective, you have…

> you are less likely to have multiple intimate partners Fun fact: STDs are common in young adults and in 55+ communities - the reason behind this is left as an exercise for the reader. https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/news-05-20...

I can confirm, my sister manages a retirement home.

Re: Flanderization

#93

This is one of those moments that makes me fall in love with the internet all over again. I've thought about this idea (without knowing there was a term for it!) wrt aging in real life. So many people seem to become increasingly caricature as they get older. The guy who likes woodworking and European travel becomes the embodiment of woodworking and European travel. It's all he talks about. His kids roll their eyes at…

Do you need to prevent it? I think it's related to optimal stopping / the secretary problem. In the beginning, you explore. Later, you exploit by doing more of the things you found fruitful.

It's a good question. My take is that the quote from one of the sibling comments -- where someone's dad talks about aging as 'boiling down to your own true essence' -- is actually wrong. I think there's a lot less 'true essence' and a lot more path dependency. In my example, is woodworking and European travel true essence? I suppose it's possible, but I don't think so. I think it could have just as easily been something completely different.

If all else were equal, it might be fine to pick something you like and just exploit the hell out of it till death. But I don't think all else is equal. Perspectives on the world, skills, knowledge, versatility, resilience -- an anti-caricature penalty on all this stuff seems good in a whole bunch of ways, even if I concede that you might be leaving some unexploited fun on the table.

Like I said, I am open to being argued out of this opinion; but that's where I am so far.

Re: Flanderization

#94

This is one of those moments that makes me fall in love with the internet all over again. I've thought about this idea (without knowing there was a term for it!) wrt aging in real life. So many people seem to become increasingly caricature as they get older. The guy who likes woodworking and European travel becomes the embodiment of woodworking and European travel. It's all he talks about. His kids roll their eyes at…

Just spend a week on tvtropes.org and you'll instantly become a better writer I think. It's not to say that tropes are bad but it's important to use it as a repository of easily accessible writing mistakes so you can quickly learn from the past and contextualize them for your own synthesis.

Just spend an hour on TV Tropes and you'll realize you spent a week on TV Tropes.

Re: Flanderization

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you are less likely to have multiple intimate partners Fun fact: STDs are common in young adults and in 55+ communities - the reason behind this is left as an exercise for the reader. https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/news-05-20...

I can confirm, my sister manages a retirement home.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just spend a week on tvtropes.org and you'll instantly become a better writer I think. It's not to say that tropes are bad but it's important to use it as a repository of easily accessible writing mistakes so you can quickly learn from the past and contextualize them for your own synthesis.

Just spend an hour on TV Tropes and you'll realize you spent a week on TV Tropes.

is there a trope for this?

Re: Flanderization

#98
I‘ve noticed this happening not just with characters, but with narratives as well.

Mythbusters used to be my all time favorite TV show for almost a decade. They had such interesting myths (lead balloon!), authentic characters and real builds that also went wrong at times, with some pretty random occurrences.

And then someone from Discovery‘s analytics department figured out they got the best ratings on some of their explosions.

Which lead to this incredibly thought-diverse show jumping the shark by pivoting to basically „let‘s find yet another excuse to blow stuff up“ in the last seasons. Yawn.

I guess it‘s really due to catering to the mainstream. Who said it so well again: A one-size-fits-all solution barely fits anybody.

Re: Flanderization

#99

I‘ve noticed this happening not just with characters, but with narratives as well. Mythbusters used to be my all time favorite TV show for almost a decade. They had such interesting myths (lead balloon!), authentic characters and real builds that also went wrong at times, with some pretty random occurrences. And then someone from Discovery‘s analytics department figured out they got the best ratings on some of their…

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Re: Flanderization

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Another example is Luanne from King of the Hill

Can you provide an example? She didn't end up all that different from when she stared. Just matured a bit thanks to her man.

In the first season she wasn't book-smart but wasn't dumb. In season 1, episode 8 she fixes a problem with Cotton Hill's car on her own in a way that implies she is mechanically inclined and competent. She got dumber as the seasons went on. So did Peggy Hill. So did Dale and Bill. Hank didn't really become dumb but he was seriously Flanderized by way of his love affair with propane.

I have seen many characters in different comedies get dumber over subsequent seasons. Presumably this is because it's easier to wring comedy from people making bad decisions. Even Malcolm in the Middle -- a series centered around a boy with an in-show IQ of 165 -- had Malcolm making absolutely stupid decisions in the later seasons.

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