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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#91

Ah. Didn’t know IMDB was owned by Amazon. Put’s all ratings on Prime in a different perspective.

> Didn’t know IMDB was owned by Amazon

Yep. That's what enables Prime Video's X-Ray where you can see details about the actors and music of a particular scene while watching, and what also makes it impossible for competitors such as Netflix to have a similar feature. If IMDB were separate, the data would probably be accessible to anyone.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#92

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

My friend who isn’t really a TV guy watched it because everyone is making such a big deal about it.

He told me today it’s not bad but the main characters are just kinda boring.

I’m still on sandman so I’ll do ring next. But it seems people do are actually watching it are not too bothered by it.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#93
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems kind of weird to characterize Tolkien fans being interested in a new, high-profile Lord of the Rings show as "brigading". Of course the people with the biggest emotional connection and interest in a franchise will be the ones most active in reviewing, creating YouTube videos, and discussing it online. I think the better question is why so many established sci-fi and franchises seem to be alienating their cor…

Because it’s not the core audience. People who care about the lore and source material are insignificant compared to the amount of people who just enjoy a lavish production in a medieval fantasy setting. Clearly Amazon is targeting the people who enjoyed the movies and want a similar experience in a TV show format. Most don’t really care that it conforms to what Tolkien wrote. Heck, I’m probably unusual compared to t…

From that perspective, it’s a small step to start considering anyone who doesn’t enjoy the show as “not the target audience”.

Best to just let all reviews stay, it opens up a massive can of worms if you don’t (never mind the conflict of interest in why LotT gets a different treatment than, say, HBO’s shows).

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#94

All crowd-sourced online aggregation is bogus. Every single form of it has someone placing their finger on the scale one way or the other. If it isn't a familial corporation it's for-hire bot farms, perhaps even hired by your competition. Or maybe it's the aggregator themselves, running a digital protection racket. Instead, go read a full review written by a trusted curator.

>Instead, go read a full review written by a trusted curator. That's the point, trusted curators have been drifting further and further from what the majority of people find good for a long time. What critics find good and what the target audience finds good are not the same: https://youtu.be/eFRWDZBH8Dc?t=745

I'm split about this. Is it good or bad? Should we only read and appreciate what the masses read and appreciate? On one hand yeah it would make sense, confirmation of the masses is a thing and not everybody can be wrong. But on the other hand everybody is different and different biases make for different preferences. When I read reviews on the web I always take time to read the negatives to see what they found as negative. Many times that's just bull (valid also about the positives btw), people having beef with whatever, but sometimes they point out interesting bits. And it takes me much less time to read such reviews (and I also learn more) than by watching the entire contents.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#95
Amazon's relationship with IMDB as been very fair.

They have kept their data open and downloadable https://m.imdb.com/interfaces/

They did shutdown the forums. But moderating is every companies nightmare these days.

Their reviews and ratings are world class and very accurate

(There are known issues like nationalism in certain countries, but it's easy to cope)

This is disappointing. But no other company would ever rate their own streaming with accurate ratings like Amazon do.

It must be be disappointing to spend over half a billion $ and end up with the mess they have. They do delete brigadeing like when people downvoted Godfather to get The Dark Knight to 1.

Maybe wait and see?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#96
„New: Movie critics and fans have disagreed about blockbusters more this year than any time this century.

I went through the top 10 movies from every year for the past 22 years, and this is what I found.“

https://twitter.com/lucas_shaw/status/1564014563229515776

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#97
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I think people with legitimate criticisms are starting to get really tired being called a racist or a misogynist. 99% of the reviews aren't about wokeness at all. They're about the writing, the pacing and the how unbelievably dull the show is.

People will always ignore flaws if it’s entertaining.

The fact LOTR was boring and uneventful makes the other flaws more glaring.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#98

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

Don't you think that 2 episodes is a bit too little to judge the entire series like that? The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. Galadriel was not exactly likeable when she participated in the first kinslaying, or when she ran away from the war of wrath.

> The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development.

The first two episodes of TRoP are 90 minutes each, for a total run time of three hours.

Three hours is about the run time of the first LoTR movie (Fellowship): how much story were they able to tell in those three hours?

Further, the other epic fantasy series, House of Dragons, also has released two episodes: how much story have they been able to tell? What are the reviews of that franchise?

The TRoP series may not end up sucking after the first eight episodes, but having the first two (allegedly: haven't seen it myself) suck seems to be a waste of everyone's time/effort/money.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

#99

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

Don't you think that 2 episodes is a bit too little to judge the entire series like that? The show covers A LOT more time than LOtR did, there's plenty of space for character development. Galadriel was not exactly likeable when she participated in the first kinslaying, or when she ran away from the war of wrath.

I am not opposed to that being her prospective character arc but she’s not portrayed that way. There’s nothing to make us like her and from the storytelling and craft perspective there should be. We should at least see her questioning herself. She’s not presented as a cautionary tale. She’s presented as a strong woman who has to deal with domineering men. Even that would be a compelling story line. But again we don’t have any way to sympathize with her. She treats every other character except her brother in the intro with contempt. All she does is try to prove to the haters that they don’t understand her and she’s gonna do what she knows is right regardless of any warnings.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does woke have to do with anything?

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> Some corners of the internet are grumpy because there are black people in middle earth.

More like this show is fan fiction level of writing and the show runners use intersectionality to deflect any sort of criticism. IF you don't like that show, you're automatically racist and sexist, it can't be because the writing itself is mediocre to bad, it has to be about identitiy politics. That's how Hollywood "creatives" excuse their failures nowadays and for the last 10 years, it's all because "MAGAs" or "Russian bots".

Meanwhile, Amazon is cracking down on unions in the real world,while being performatively woke with some garbage show they spent a billion dollar on...

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