There are 66K thousand forks of https://github.com/nightscout/cgm-remote-monitor and I suspect the vast majority are using the free heroku version, so I would guess there are going to be quite a few unhappy diabetics!
Removal of Heroku free product plans
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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#92The page requires to login. Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/zVx9Ss7
It doesn't require a login when accessed using a private browsing window or a browser profile that hasn't been logged into Heroku before.
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#93This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…
Why do you think nobody has been able to fully emulate this experience? It seems to me like there’d be a big market for an identical feature by feature Heroku “clone” with a more dedicated (from the outside looking in) team. No more features, no less, just exactly what Heroku did but without the intent to shut down. What’s preventing that from existing?
I have often wondered about this. I was looking forward to this new world of easy ops but instead we got k8s yaml hell.
I personally think now there is great demand of complexity from all levels of tech hierarchy. see this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32439601
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#94This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…
In our case, this would mean increasing our Heroku bill by 400% (we run a few paid apps and >40 free dynos with super low monthly activity) Does anyone have a recommendation how to re-create the Heroku experience on AWS or Azure?
AWS beanstalk allows you to run on very cheap instances, even cheaper if you get a plan and commit to a term.
It’s not a 1:1 experience, but I’ve enjoyed it as an alternative to Heroku for sure. Alternatively, you could spin up a server and install dokku which is pretty close to a shipping experience, but still requires some maintenance and hand holding.
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#95We pay Heroku thousands of dollars a month for our Staging and Production environments, and one of the reasons we chose them is that we can spin up a toy widget or proof of concept in seconds for free : we probably do a few of those a day, play around with them for a few days or weeks, and then kill them. Now that these toys aren't free, I would guess likely to move them to AWS or GCP (since they're likely to be chea…
As a CTO of a company which has a very similar situation - I can fully agree on that.
We already started looking into a possible migration to another cloud provider. The biggest decision point would be a similar developer experience as with git push heroku master.
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#96So their next chapter is obscurity followed by shutting down? It was clear even before their horribly bungled GitHub security incident that Heroku was on life support at best and it's been a long time since "Heroku" was the answer to "What PaaS should I use?". The beancounters took control a while back and are sucking all they can out of it before they discard it's empty shell. Having Heroku as your PaaS provider see…
We are not shutting it down. As I said in the blog, our priority is making sure that Heroku choice is a good business decision for critical apps of all sizes. This does have tradeoffs, but getting the rug pulled out is not one of them - the opposite.
Ok, let's see how well this comment ages. I predict in 5-10 years max we will get an "Our incredibly journey" post or a "Heroku is now Salesforce Cloud" (if that name isn't already taken, I have no clue, "Safeforce" is an immediate "avoid! red flag!" for me, I don't follow that company). Heroku was amazing when it first came out but it squandered the lead it had and hasn't done anything interesting for a long time.
As with all "let's squeeze all we can out of this" you will continue to make money for a number of years no doubt but you've just destroyed a major onboarding ramp (free tier), your security appears to be a joke from the outside looking in, and your product has been effectively on life support for many years now. A public roadmap is too little, too late. You've lost the trust of developers and it's only going to be downhill from here.
> This does have tradeoffs, but getting the rug pulled out is not one of them - the opposite.
I'm sure the developers with apps on the free tier don't agree and I'd bet good money they will never touch Heroku again if they have their way. I know I won't.
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#97Link to the public roadmap: https://github.com/orgs/heroku/projects/130 Blog post says "Salesforce has never been more focused on Heroku's future." but this looks like they are just keeping the lights on by deprecating and keeping security up to date. Which isn't bad if the product has reached maturity but I wonder if these really are the most important features users ask for. Why does the feedback link on the blog p…
> Why does the feedback link on the blog post go to a personal LinkedIn page?
That's how you know they really don't want to hear from you.
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#98Well shit. After the Heroku Dashboard issues I moved my OSS project demo instances and PR reviews process to Fly.io, then Render.com, then Railway, then back to Heroku because it was the only one that had a truly free and well integrated process.
Sigh.
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#99Speaking as a pure hobbyist with no formal background in programming or computer science, I've learned a ton playing around with free Heroku dynos. That "holy shit, it worked" feeling is a hell of a drug. My proudest achievement so far is a dumb-as-rocks little Clojure program that runs on a schedule in a free Heroku dyno. It sends alerts to a Slack channel when there's updates to a Trello board we use at work. All i…
You'd think a company the size of Salesforce would have the long-range vision to use a tiny fraction of their resources to capture developer "goodwill" from projects just like this. But apparently you'd be wrong.
Nah, some beancounters/MBAs found they could they could save a tiny amount of money and completely ignored the knock-on effects, tale as old as time. That said Heroku hasn't been relevant in many years now so maybe removing the free tier won't matter. They just have the people who are stuck there or for those who are neck-deep into Salesforce crap and Heroku is the best option. Neither of which sound like a winning strategy long term.
Developer interest has moved on (due to Heroku's mismanagement) and I'd bet the majority of talent has long since left Heroku. It's in a death spiral now.
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#100This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…
> Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps
Some would say bootcamps exploited a free service and a nice-to-have became an expectation