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Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by rtpg »

joannanewsom wrote: post #90
FiloSottile wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt" is the gate for government violence, but as a society we operate on a very different standard, for very good reasons. Multiple credible accusations, corroborated by contemporaneous accounts, collated by a reputable journalist is definitely enough to call the accusations founded. Not enough to send people with guns to take away his freedom, maybe, but enough to fo…

What is the value of forming an opinion about someone we will probably never interact with and has no influence on our lives? I can understand if you work for his company or know him in person. But for the rest of the internet, I don't see the purpose except to fuel outrage.

I mean… he’s the one out here in front of the press all the time. He was a CEO of a card processing company! There is a universe in which he wouldn’t be a household name.

Sure the “outrage” is just high level gossip for most people talking about it, but it’s a reaction to this person being a loud and vocal person who was trying to build a public persona of being a Good Guy.

There’s definitely a larger idea here about journalism in general looking for hero stories. But the guy is out there giving the interviews

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

#92

Post by mcurial »

An anecdote of why we should be comfortable with not idolizing any moral figures and yet respect whatever good things they've achieved / done. I guess this dichotomy of how broken men / women can also do great things or how great men / women can also do bad things is something we have to deal with in the real world. Could I point to DC Comics for some simple life lessons on that?

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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FiloSottile wrote: post #69
blippage wrote: post #27

“The one moral CEO in America.” That's up there with Ken Lay's proclamation that Enron set the bar for corporate ethics (I can't find the exact quote, and obviously before the collapse). 'The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.' -- Ralph Waldo Emerson. Anyhoo, I have no actual idea if the accusations against Price are founded or not. That's for the courts to decide. I'm not into the whole…

"Innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt" is the gate for government violence, but as a society we operate on a very different standard, for very good reasons. Multiple credible accusations, corroborated by contemporaneous accounts, collated by a reputable journalist is definitely enough to call the accusations founded. Not enough to send people with guns to take away his freedom, maybe, but enough to fo…

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Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

#95

Post by jokethrowaway »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #24
syspec wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The CEO and company are from Washington State, but go on...

“Silicon Valley” is a culture not just a physical location.

Silicon Valley is a location, startup culture is everywhere

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

#97

Post by jokethrowaway »

jongjong wrote: post #21
vasco wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's "allowing" success, I'd like to make an appointment?

'They' are a bunch of algorithms and they don't take appointments. Just say a lot of positive things about the following topics on social media and the algorithms will start working for you: - Fiat monetary system - Banks - Big corporations - Big tech - Hedge funds - Billionaires - The importance of censorship to prevent misinformation - Executive bonuses - Surveillance - The need for more regulations - Big governmen…

Thanks, I'll try that and let you know once I have my first bank

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

#98

Post by polote »

blippage wrote: post #27

“The one moral CEO in America.” That's up there with Ken Lay's proclamation that Enron set the bar for corporate ethics (I can't find the exact quote, and obviously before the collapse). 'The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.' -- Ralph Waldo Emerson. Anyhoo, I have no actual idea if the accusations against Price are founded or not. That's for the courts to decide. I'm not into the whole…

I can't understand why people believe the people being able to make the more noise about a topic are actually being the best at that topic.

The reality is that the people who get the more noise are just the best marketers

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

#99

Post by wikfwikf »

rtpg wrote: post #91
joannanewsom wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the value of forming an opinion about someone we will probably never interact with and has no influence on our lives? I can understand if you work for his company or know him in person. But for the rest of the internet, I don't see the purpose except to fuel outrage.

I mean… he’s the one out here in front of the press all the time. He was a CEO of a card processing company! There is a universe in which he wouldn’t be a household name. Sure the “outrage” is just high level gossip for most people talking about it, but it’s a reaction to this person being a loud and vocal person who was trying to build a public persona of being a Good Guy. There’s definitely a larger idea here about…

You also answered the GP's question as to why we should care about this.

If you're reading and seeing multiple stories all over the media about what a wonderful, altruistic person someone is, the information as to whether that person is in fact a great guy, or whether he's a predatory scumbag who is exploiting the media to make himself look great is very valuable. It tells you something about how the media works.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

#100

Post by michaelt »

joannanewsom wrote: post #90
FiloSottile wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt" is the gate for government violence, but as a society we operate on a very different standard, for very good reasons. Multiple credible accusations, corroborated by contemporaneous accounts, collated by a reputable journalist is definitely enough to call the accusations founded. Not enough to send people with guns to take away his freedom, maybe, but enough to fo…

What is the value of forming an opinion about someone we will probably never interact with and has no influence on our lives? I can understand if you work for his company or know him in person. But for the rest of the internet, I don't see the purpose except to fuel outrage.

Because you've already formed an opinion (Maybe you've read articles saying "The one moral CEO in America" like the grandparent) and you want to correct it if your prior opinion was incomplete.
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