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I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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ISO keys, awesome. I wish ISO layouts can be more common, I grew up using ABNT (pt-BR) layouts, I got used to US-intl + altgr, but I dearly miss the big enter key.

I'm a US layout MX Keys owner right now, so the key caps minimal profile is awesome for me. Definitely miss the big enter from ISO layouts.

Don't care about the num pad like my accountant wife does, but the full size arrows and del/insert I do care.

home/end/pgup/pgdn I can live with a combo using the arrow keys.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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Everyone is different, but personally I won’t buy a keyboard without separate Delete and Backspace keys, without Home/End/PgUp/PgDn/Insert keys, and without a dedicated Menu key [0], for any kind of serious work. I’d also imagine that one is prone to bump into the rotary knob if one is not fully conditioned to that keyboard. I applaud the T-shaped cursor block and the full-sized function keys, although it would be us…

> and without a dedicated Menu key [0], for any kind of serious work.

I'll bite; how useful is the Menu key really? Is there something in your workflow that is benefitted by having it? Totally agree with Home/End/Insert/Delete being required on any keyboard I use.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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I run a subreddit on mobile ergonomics ( http://reddit.com/r/ergomobilecomputers/ ) and spent the past year using raised tablet PC as my only machine, and curating the smaller subset of portable keyboard & computer setups. My advice:

- drop the rotary encoder, it messes up the height for packing the keyboard away.

- a 75% layout (i.e. having fn keys) is okay, but makes it a bit challenging to fit in with a 13" tablet footprint with a magic Trackpad.

- What ergonomic job does this design serve? After a year of using a similar keyboard (Nuphy F1) I find myself seeking ergonomic improvement from a split keyboard or angling (like the Atreus) without becoming too odd of a layout.

- If you're doing a custom design, can you use smaller keys somehow to facilitate room for ergonomics (angled split) while retaining a minimal design? See https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMobileComputers/comments/v0g89d... for some inspiration .

- I like the simple black look! Similar to you I just want a fairly simple look, but focus more on ergonomics.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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ISO keys, awesome. I wish ISO layouts can be more common, I grew up using ABNT (pt-BR) layouts, I got used to US-intl + altgr, but I dearly miss the big enter key. I'm a US layout MX Keys owner right now, so the key caps minimal profile is awesome for me. Definitely miss the big enter from ISO layouts. Don't care about the num pad like my accountant wife does, but the full size arrows and del/insert I do care. home/e…

Are you searching for high-end (not necessarily custom) mechanical keyboards? I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen a keyboard more than $100 or so that didn't support an ISO layout.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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I disagree, I've been using laptop, or tenkeyless, or currently a 65-key optical mechanical keyboard, for forever. I almost never use the numpad, or pgup/home etc keys (vim user), and rarely function keys, so they just get in the way. Keyboards are quite a personal thing, I think there's room for many different designs.

That's my whole point? Add another design, because it's personal, and just the vocal minority that show off their sleek minimalist tenkeyless keyboards. I wouldn't suggest adding too many designs at launch though, that's obviously unsustainable. But eventually sure. I'd just start with a minimal and a 100%. To cover the core bases.

I don't know, if you're going to start a new product company with a 'mission', it's not a bad debut to offer just a single product that embodies that mission.

This keyboard definitely has it's own style. I'm not sure I agree with it all, actually I don't, but it seems to know what it wants to be.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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Looks really nice BUT: There's a split between what people online post pics of on fancy desktop setups and what people prefer to use as their daily driver. Minimal keyboards are for minimalists, and people who like to show of their setups. Just like desktop vanity posts typically have speakers, yet everyone uses headphones. Anecdotally there was a post recently on some PC subreddit asking what keyboard people preferr…

> Only people who didn't WFH much, or didn't have jobs involving any data entry at all could do without a numpad. I'm (mostly) a software dev for 15+ years and I've never felt the need for a numpad. I'm curious now - have I been really lucky that none of my gigs have ever involved any substantial numerical data entry? Do other devs have to constantly do that so it justifies the larger keyboard (which is off-center an…

Entering TOTP codes, bank accounts, spreadsheeting is much more convenient on a 3x3 grid than a row of numbers. It's also nice to have a +- button in the rightmost column.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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Looks really nice BUT: There's a split between what people online post pics of on fancy desktop setups and what people prefer to use as their daily driver. Minimal keyboards are for minimalists, and people who like to show of their setups. Just like desktop vanity posts typically have speakers, yet everyone uses headphones. Anecdotally there was a post recently on some PC subreddit asking what keyboard people preferr…

I would like a full keyboard that has the numeric keyboard on the left side.

That way, my mouse would be closer to the action.

I have no idea why this is not a common option.

I use the numeric keyboard only for a couple of games that use it to control the camera, and that's pretty much it.

Otherwise, the numeric keyboard just uses desktop space and causes my mouse to be further away from my hand, when typing.

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