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On being tired

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Re: On being tired

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Post by dancek »

comboy wrote: post #32
powersnail wrote: post #11

As I age, I've learned to distinguish "not being excited" (languor) and "being tired" (exhaustion), which to my younger self felt like the same thing. The former is not always caused by a lack of energy, but also excessive idleness, especially if I'm doing things that requires attention but also isn't intellectually stimulating. When the author refers to "normal tired" and "dead tired", I think that echoes with my tw…

These being tired and fighting exhaustion with exercise threads must be a dread to read for anybody who works hard physically. But I'm in the same privileged or at least not working physically position and I found most correlation with number of tasks I'm focusing on. If there are too many things at once or none of them stands out, I'm more likely to feel tired. If I'm focusing on a specific thing associated with spe…

Would we mental workers dread reading how physical workers fight exhaustion by doing crosswords?

Re: On being tired

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Post by xiekomb »

ceezee wrote: post #52

friendly reminder that feeling chronically fatigued or tired is not normal. People experiencing this should consider getting tested for sleep apnea.

Gluten can be responsible for such conditions. As many other external factors I guess. I have been reducing gluten consumption recently and kinda feel tiredness as reduced. Maybe unrelated but it cannot hurt. Also practicing sport regularly helps reducing tiredness. Human body is such a complex machine.

Re: On being tired

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Post by koonsolo »

powersnail wrote: post #11

As I age, I've learned to distinguish "not being excited" (languor) and "being tired" (exhaustion), which to my younger self felt like the same thing. The former is not always caused by a lack of energy, but also excessive idleness, especially if I'm doing things that requires attention but also isn't intellectually stimulating. When the author refers to "normal tired" and "dead tired", I think that echoes with my tw…

For me I describe it as laziness vs tiredness (my English is probably not that advanced ;)).

The difficultly is that in both states, you don't feel like doing anything.

If someone has a quick way to distinguish between lazy and tired, I would love to know.

Re: On being tired

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Post by tasuki »

angarg12 wrote: post #5

I've spent the last couple of years at the two bottom levels of that scale. It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize one of the root causes: my wife and I have fundamentally different personalities that are at odds with each other. My wife is an extrovert. She is energized by going out, visiting places, doing things, meeting people. I'm an introvert. I get energized by staying in, reading a book, watching a…

> This creates tension every weekend when we need to negotiated what to do.

Is it necessary to negotiate? Why can't each of you do whatever they want to do?

"Fine you go out I'll read a book" or perhaps "I'd generally rather read a book than go out, but I'd like to spend this time with you, so I'll go out with you to visit places".

Re: On being tired

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Post by angarg12 »

atentaten wrote: post #7
angarg12 wrote: post #5

I've spent the last couple of years at the two bottom levels of that scale. It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize one of the root causes: my wife and I have fundamentally different personalities that are at odds with each other. My wife is an extrovert. She is energized by going out, visiting places, doing things, meeting people. I'm an introvert. I get energized by staying in, reading a book, watching a…

What was your solution to the problem of negotiating with your wife about what to do on the weekends?

Unfortunately we haven't figure this one out yet.

Re: On being tired

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Post by alostpuppy »

ceezee wrote: post #52

friendly reminder that feeling chronically fatigued or tired is not normal. People experiencing this should consider getting tested for sleep apnea.

This should be the top comment. Easy thing to deal with if identified.

Re: On being tired

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Post by zackmorris »

ceezee wrote: post #52

friendly reminder that feeling chronically fatigued or tired is not normal. People experiencing this should consider getting tested for sleep apnea.

I just saw a thing on social media that if you require 9-10 hours of sleep to function, you probably have sleep apnea.

That's been my case since childhood but I only found out a couple of years ago that I have mild sleep apnea. I was fitted for an ALF appliance and did myofunctional therapy and mostly corrected it. Now I sleep with tape over my mouth, which lets me wake up feeling mostly normal instead of hungover:

http://sleepapneatherapist.com/mouth-tape-sleep/

The only difference is that I use 2 pieces of 1/4" wide ordinary surgical tape in a X shape so that the outer lips are held closed instead of the center. This is for aesthetics, to keep the upper lip from stretching over time, which can lead to unpredictable levels of homeliness :-/

Hopefully this helps someone get enough energy to get themselves checked out.

Edit: also, the tape is short enough that it's easy to open your mouth and rip the tape off in the middle of the night to breathe. The tape is more of a hint to the body to get used to sleeping with the mouth closed.

Re: On being tired

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Post by lujim »

powersnail wrote: post #11

As I age, I've learned to distinguish "not being excited" (languor) and "being tired" (exhaustion), which to my younger self felt like the same thing. The former is not always caused by a lack of energy, but also excessive idleness, especially if I'm doing things that requires attention but also isn't intellectually stimulating. When the author refers to "normal tired" and "dead tired", I think that echoes with my tw…

Also probably fair to include burnout, chronic-fatigue/post-viral/long-covid, moderate to clinical depression, anhedonia, cardiac problems, auto immune diseases. Tired and fatigued are also super different. Sleepy vs tired, wired, and lacking the capacity to physically function effectively.

Growth = stress + rest. When physical or mental stress outpace rest you will get tired. The intensity and duration being the big differentiator.

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