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Re: Goat Rental – Hire Goats

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Post by arcanemachined »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #86
mingusrude wrote: post #55

My sister has a small farm and in addition to cows and horses she also has rabbits. Every spring, parents show up to buy a rabbit to have at home. When the deal is done my sister takes the parents aside and tell them that if they plan or feel by the end of the summer that they want to let the rabbit loose, they can return it for free. What she does not tell is that our brother-in-law is a chef and happily makes rabbi…

What kind of people adopt a pet, and then release it into the wild? People doing this with cats is one of the reasons stray cats are such a big problem in many places. People dumping cat litters in the woods and what not. And rabbits can be an ecological menace too if allowed to multiply, which they do like rabbits .

> What kind of people adopt a pet, and then release it into the wild?

Have you seen how much litter people throw on the ground? I think you might be giving the average person too much credit.

Re: Goat Rental – Hire Goats

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Post by vishnugupta »

Ah nice seeing something like this on HN. In India, it's common to hire goats for another, lets just say complementary reason. Their droppings are really good natural fertiliser. So farmers pay sheep/goat herders to get them to visit their farm for a few days before the sowing season.

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Post by lostlogin »

KingMob wrote: post #73
mingusrude wrote: post #55

My sister has a small farm and in addition to cows and horses she also has rabbits. Every spring, parents show up to buy a rabbit to have at home. When the deal is done my sister takes the parents aside and tell them that if they plan or feel by the end of the summer that they want to let the rabbit loose, they can return it for free. What she does not tell is that our brother-in-law is a chef and happily makes rabbi…

> If there was ever a win-win situation, this is it. Say what? She lies via omission to the parents, forcing them to make an uninformed choice. Instead of letting a rabbit loose in the wild, they might have sought another home for it, because they didn't want it to die. Your sister's lies mislead them into thinking they can safely return the rabbit.

Rabbits are incredibly destructive of many environments. Have a look at New Zealand.

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Post by pluijzer »

withinboredom wrote: post #81
KingMob wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If there was ever a win-win situation, this is it. Say what? She lies via omission to the parents, forcing them to make an uninformed choice. Instead of letting a rabbit loose in the wild, they might have sought another home for it, because they didn't want it to die. Your sister's lies mislead them into thinking they can safely return the rabbit.

Letting them free will likely get them eaten anyway, probably less humanly since they’ll still be alive while they are eaten. Or run over. These are domesticated rabbits, not wild ones.

What the parent post means is that the owners might not have let the rabbit free bit would find an other alternative, like keeping the rabbit anyway because they love it, giving the rabbit to a friend etc. But now they think their is this great alternative of giving the rabbit back but unknowingly killing it.

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

arcanemachined wrote: post #91
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of people adopt a pet, and then release it into the wild? People doing this with cats is one of the reasons stray cats are such a big problem in many places. People dumping cat litters in the woods and what not. And rabbits can be an ecological menace too if allowed to multiply, which they do like rabbits .

> What kind of people adopt a pet, and then release it into the wild? Have you seen how much litter people throw on the ground? I think you might be giving the average person too much credit.

I'm not talking about cat litter I'm talking about litters of kittens. Who gives a fuck about litter?

Unless you're talking about litter as in garbage.

But if you think dumping helpless animals under your care to fend for themselves is morally equivalent to littering, I'm not even sure what to say to that. It's not even in the same ballpark.

Re: Goat Rental – Hire Goats

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Post by withinboredom »

pluijzer wrote: post #95
withinboredom wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Letting them free will likely get them eaten anyway, probably less humanly since they’ll still be alive while they are eaten. Or run over. These are domesticated rabbits, not wild ones.

What the parent post means is that the owners might not have let the rabbit free bit would find an other alternative, like keeping the rabbit anyway because they love it, giving the rabbit to a friend etc. But now they think their is this great alternative of giving the rabbit back but unknowingly killing it.

I’ve had several friends have rabbits in my lifetime. They all t eventually let them go instead of finding a new home. Each time I looked at them in horror while I imagined the lucky hawk having dinner.

Most people think rabbits are “natural” when they may actually be invasive. So they let them go. Finding a new home is the last thing on every one of these owners mind.

Re: Goat Rental – Hire Goats

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Post by sph »

strickman wrote: post #26

Just finished watching Clarkson's Farm; Jeremy got some sheep for this purpose. Recommend watching.

I second the recommendation. Don't be put off by Jeremy Clarkson and his persona, seeing a motorhead with a big ego trying to run a farm and make a profit is what makes the show. Thankfully, he's paired with someone that knows their stuff, with a sharp enough wit...

Re: Goat Rental – Hire Goats

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Post by progre »

k_sze wrote: post #83
progre wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, my neighbours keeps goats next to my propery, they escape once in a while. They go directly to the soft greens in my garden. When the fences hold they eat the area clean by type as you say. First the grass, then the leves of the small trees, then the bark (killing the small trees). Only when there is nothing else left will they eat the nettles.

I'm not familiar with goats. But this got me thinking: why would the goats even do that? Are they not well-fed? Are they hungry all the time? Do goats eat and poop 24/7 if left unchecked?

> Do goats eat and poop 24/7 if left unchecked

Yes. Many grazing animals are like this. It's like they have no "feeling full" in their tiny brains. Grass and leafs are not very calorie dense so they kind of have to.

Cows or horses can easily eat themselves sick if they are let into high grown grass fields. Where I live the horse owners will sometimes cut the grass in the fields before they let the horses go to it in the spring.

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