Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

Post by valarauko » Thu, Aug 04, 2022, 7:35 PM UTC

dhruval wrote: post #89

valarauko wrote: post #86

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> If the complaint is, "Supermajorities aren't a Democracy" Is anybody actually saying that? For what its worth, I do think super majorities are corrosive long term for the multiparty Westminster style parliamentary systems. There is little incentive for compromise building or genuine debate on bills. It might even work if political parties had visible internal debate and discussion, and we can largely agree that thi…

The original claim was that the senate was bypassed (non-democratic). A majority in the Senate is democratic if democratically elected etc. Whereas increasing the power of the executive as is the trend in the USA by bypassing the house / Senate is corrosive to democracy in my view.

Post by cuteboy19 » Thu, Aug 04, 2022, 7:59 PM UTC

yalogin wrote: post #58

On the spectrum of privacy india is on the furthest end of it. No one cares about privacy and actively give their data over to everyone. For example every vendor asks for your phone number and people don’t question it at all. As great as the privacy law sounds I have a suspicion that it will just be used by police and the government to abuse authority and silence critics like they do with people tweeting anything the…

Post by MichaelZuo » Thu, Aug 04, 2022, 8:10 PM UTC

kobiguru wrote: post #35

potamic wrote: post #27

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> the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act This bill was under discussion for 3 years. Every year the JCP keeps proposing new and different changes. After all this if you have 81/99 amendments, you have to question if it is nitpicking and stalling, especially when you have things like the Finance Bill and Farm Bill that get passed in record time. This seems like a political…

Not everything is political. I can tell you this because I work with many of indian government departments very closely. The reservations JPC highlighted will be studied and after consultation with stakeholders it will tabled again. FYI - The committee chairman and the IT Minister are from the same political party yet they disagreed and bill got pulled. Here is a good premier on the JPC Recommendation [1] https://vid…

Post by portpecos » Thu, Aug 04, 2022, 8:20 PM UTC

valarauko wrote: post #92

dhruval wrote: post #89

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The original claim was that the senate was bypassed (non-democratic). A majority in the Senate is democratic if democratically elected etc. Whereas increasing the power of the executive as is the trend in the USA by bypassing the house / Senate is corrosive to democracy in my view.

The original claim was that the senate was bypassed (non-democratic). A majority in the Senate is democratic if democratically elected etc. I'm not sure what this means - that the NDA government could bypass the Rajya Sabha for 90% (the number quoted in the original claim) of bills? That doesn't make sense. I don't see how that is even possible. The only way that the Rajya Sabha can be effectively bypassed is by the…

Post by LightG » Thu, Aug 04, 2022, 8:32 PM UTC

kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…