In Supreme Court brief, Yale and peers defend use of race in admissions

Post by light_hue_1 » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 3:43 PM UTC

Invictus0 wrote: post #16

tomrod wrote: post #2

I didn't realize college admissions' affirmative action had reached SCOTUS. I wonder what the outcome will be. Key summary: > "Today Yale joined peer institutions in stating emphatically that student diversity is essential to the missions of American universities and promotes educational excellence for all students,” President Peter Salovey said. “Our amicus curiae brief makes clear that the way we consider race and…

The Ivy leagues today are anything but diverse in thought, this should be obvious. What actually exists is a repressive liberal orthodoxy, and no dissent is tolerated. I ought to expand on this since this comment will surely be controversial. I make no comment on which view is right or wrong; but suppose the conservative view were favored, and any disagreement with the ideology got your fired from your job, publicly…

Post by TameAntelope » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 3:45 PM UTC

zmgsabst wrote: post #92

TameAntelope wrote: post #90

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Treating someone differently on the basis of race is illegal under civil rights laws. Because it’s the racism we were trying to end, during the civil rights era. I understand many modern racists try to change the meaning of “racism” to except their repugnant behavior.

Post by tomrod » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 3:45 PM UTC

zmgsabst wrote: post #83

tomrod wrote: post #67

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I get your confusion on the topic. But your approach fails to consider that the removal of privilege of a socially preferred group feels like discrimination to members of that group. This means the nuance is a distinction with difference.

We’re not talking about “removing privilege”, ie, ending a racist program that favors Asians. We’re talking about discrimination against an 18 year old Asian kid who has done nothing on the basis of race.

Post by tomrod » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 3:46 PM UTC

ser13 wrote: post #42

tomrod wrote: post #2

I didn't realize college admissions' affirmative action had reached SCOTUS. I wonder what the outcome will be. Key summary: > "Today Yale joined peer institutions in stating emphatically that student diversity is essential to the missions of American universities and promotes educational excellence for all students,” President Peter Salovey said. “Our amicus curiae brief makes clear that the way we consider race and…

I recently listened to the 5-4 podcast episode "Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District No. 1" that covered the 2007 US Supreme Court decision. It discusses using race in public school choice and discusses two different interpretations of the 14th amendment. "If you take 14th Amendment, or have any sort of class that talks about desegregation in public schools, there are two different ways of…

Post by aceHN » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 3:46 PM UTC

scythe wrote: post #72

aceHN wrote: post #48

If your goal is equal opportunity you can look at socioeconomic class without considering race. Fundamentally the idea that race must be considered to achieve diversity is an inherently racist idea - you don't believe some races will get in without help.

It should be noted that neither class nor race is a reindeer-style glowing red nose. There's an recent trend in England of people faking lower-class roots to take advantage of targeted programs, and there are indicators that white Americans are pretending Native ancestry for college admission.