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RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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RSS has been alive this whole time. Blogs usually have it by default, the big news organizations have it. The only thing I'm not satisfied with reading news on RSS, is that news organizations push too many articles, to the point that reading the headlines alone takes quite some time. There's nearly 100 articles per day per source sometimes. Unlike a newspaper, which has a natural structure of priority and hierarchy,…

If you just want highlights, https://brutalist.report is my go to

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

#92

RSS has been alive this whole time. Blogs usually have it by default, the big news organizations have it. The only thing I'm not satisfied with reading news on RSS, is that news organizations push too many articles, to the point that reading the headlines alone takes quite some time. There's nearly 100 articles per day per source sometimes. Unlike a newspaper, which has a natural structure of priority and hierarchy,…

Newsblur has a training feature [1], with a thumbs up/down on article tags, author, and keywords in a title that can bubble up more interesting articles or completely hide them. Unfortunately training is per feed, there's a newer Premium Pro tier with global training coming out with it, but it is much more expensive [2]. 1. https://www.newsblur.com/faq (under Intelligence section) 2. https://forum.newsblur.com/t/glob…

Wow, $299/year. you weren't kidding.

I assume this is targeted at professionals that are trying to stay abreast of developments around certain topics/subjects. If you think about it through that lens it's reasonably priced, I suppose.

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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> If you want to export your feed list, this can be tedious Does Google Takeout support Google Podcasts? That'd be the usual method of exporting everything from a Google product.

> Does Google Takeout support Google Podcasts? Nope. One of the few use cases where I actually looked towards Google Takeout as an escape hatch for my data, instead of a mere novelty ("a ZIP of all my YouTube interactions—that's neat, I guess"), but Google Podcasts is not there. I've filed several complaints about this and several other shortcomings in response to the Google Podcasts app's spammy notifications reques…

That sounds useful; do you have that tool published somewhere?

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Spotify is in fact intending to move away from RSS, as a means of creating a walled garden: https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/08/spotify-hypes-the-revenue-... > […] The company spent a good portion of its presentation specifically focused on podcasts, which it said had been “largely unchanged” for years before its entry into the market, due to the limitations of RSS. > Spotify cited how unbundling podcasts from RSS tech…

The entire framing of this (esp. re "unbundling") is pretty gross. Unbundling is associated with disintermediation. What Spotify is doing is the opposite. What organizational dysfunction led to the circumstances here—where the writers and editors of the linked article uncritically publish and more or less legitimize this kind of shameless corporate spin?

> What organizational dysfunction

The whole article is pretty much just re-wording Spotify's press release.

There seem to be no sources in it except for Spotify's press release.

So, a very old form of organizational disfunction in journalism: The cheapest and quickest way to write an article is to use someone's press release as the only source, as it doesn't actually require, well, any journalism.

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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> Does Google Takeout support Google Podcasts? Nope. One of the few use cases where I actually looked towards Google Takeout as an escape hatch for my data, instead of a mere novelty ("a ZIP of all my YouTube interactions—that's neat, I guess"), but Google Podcasts is not there. I've filed several complaints about this and several other shortcomings in response to the Google Podcasts app's spammy notifications reques…

That sounds useful; do you have that tool published somewhere?

I got pretty carried away writing the thing as if it were a mid-century technical repair manual for a piece of industrial equipment, and never got around to publishing it but here you go: https://crussell.ichi.city/gpe.html>

It could really stand to have an associated 90-second video demonstration that walks through the steps because of how unorthodox the the-documentation-is-the-implementation paradigm that I was experimenting with is.

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Unfortunately, to Spotify's great delight, the word "podcast" has been successfully embraced, extended, and extinguished. Us technical types have been complicit in it by allowing the word "podcast" to mean audio shows on proprietary platforms that require proprietary players.

> Us technical types have been complicit in it by allowing the word "podcast" to mean [...] Those types have done a lot of the same damage to the word "wiki". It blows my mind that Sourcehut of all places is a willing participant in debasing the term.

What exactly is Sourcehut doing?

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Feedburner is a zombie product now, and has been for a few years.

I'm subscribed to some feeds from them. I didn't notice any ads, yet. Do you mean by 'zombie product' that they don't do ads anymore?

I think it's that it feels like a dead product, even though it's still running.

Not a lot of new features being developed, and some features getting turned off "to support the product's next chapter"[1].

There hasn't been a firm announcement about Feedburner being sunsetted, but given Google's history of killing things off (including Reader, apropos of this thread's topic), it does feel like the walking dead.

https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2021/04/changes-to...

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Newsblur has a training feature [1], with a thumbs up/down on article tags, author, and keywords in a title that can bubble up more interesting articles or completely hide them. Unfortunately training is per feed, there's a newer Premium Pro tier with global training coming out with it, but it is much more expensive [2]. 1. https://www.newsblur.com/faq (under Intelligence section) 2. https://forum.newsblur.com/t/glob…

Wow, $299/year. you weren't kidding. I assume this is targeted at professionals that are trying to stay abreast of developments around certain topics/subjects. If you think about it through that lens it's reasonably priced, I suppose.

lol all these RSS readers really go in on solving problems as broadly as possible - not just ocean boiling, it leaves each user with a subpar experience even if it’s novel (having to laboriously refine results yourself). it would be easy for them to for instance scrape many popular news sources or APIs for ranking/top story info to at least cover these extremely common and extremely noisy feeds

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Newsblur has a training feature [1], with a thumbs up/down on article tags, author, and keywords in a title that can bubble up more interesting articles or completely hide them. Unfortunately training is per feed, there's a newer Premium Pro tier with global training coming out with it, but it is much more expensive [2]. 1. https://www.newsblur.com/faq (under Intelligence section) 2. https://forum.newsblur.com/t/glob…

Wow, $299/year. you weren't kidding. I assume this is targeted at professionals that are trying to stay abreast of developments around certain topics/subjects. If you think about it through that lens it's reasonably priced, I suppose.

Yes. Feedly seems to be marketing itself at investors and speculators lately (or trading bots I suppose), because they're using NLP to highlight and categorize articles based on whether they mention acquisitions, mergers, leadership changes, etc.
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