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Re: Tell HN: Upwork has an impersonation problem

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I've been on the other side of this, hiring fake people. I'm actually going to stop using Upwork after almost 10 years. It's such a cesspool of fraud now that I can't figure out how to find the honest people. As an example, I recently hired someone who showed his face on video and had great communication skills. Next time we did a call, he had no video and sounded totally different. It turned out to be a subcontracto…

Seems like this can be solved with a quick address verification no?

Re: Tell HN: Upwork has an impersonation problem

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Watermark your photos. Indicate anywhere and everywhere anyone using your photos is probably an imposter. As others have said, you probably need to start the legal train rolling so you can subpeona OkCupid and co.

The horse is out of the barn, unfortunately. The recent victim's screenshots had the same photos as the first incident (HR showed them to me). I no longer have any public photos available except on LinkedIn. I will consider taking that down.

Which really isn't an option for a lot of people. Even leaving aside personal stuff, I probably have hundreds of photos associated with conference talks and the like.

Re: Tell HN: Upwork has an impersonation problem

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Sure, but, frankly? That is a form of psychopathy. Please don't take that offensively. I'm not throwing the word around. I don't mean "evil". I don't think it's "evil", I'm even jealous. Not just of money. Of the rationality. The rest of us don't do this stuff because we'd feel horribly bad for doing it, to the point benefits would outweigh the costs. I'd hazard a guess that most people would also say it was fine giv…

Let me give you a new perspective. You get to see your dying father for just one week as that is all the vacation time you have left and you cannot just walk away from your job due to house/kids/etc. Happened to a friend. Father had 6 months to live. He got 1 week with him in that time. Pile of cash lets you walk away. How horrible will that make you feel to not get to spend that time with him? My employer, who I wil…

I feel this very very very much, I wish we could talk in person, I am tortured every day by this exact problem. I am very jealous of people who are "that rational" "are able to adopt that perspective".

To my point, people don't do this even though everyone knows it, and its obvious, because....:(

Re: Tell HN: Upwork has an impersonation problem

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> Second, what color is the bubbly music museum next door? Obviously, this is a trick given it’s multicolored. I went to the Space Needle three years ago and I wouldn't be able to answer that question. I wouldn't assume that someone who lives in Seattle goes through the Space Needle area on a daily basis; it's quite touristy. This comes from someone who lives in touristy areas. Ask me what color a building is next to…

The point is, if he can see the needle out his window right now, he can just look out the window to look at the building next door.

The space needle is over 500 feet tall. I'm assuming that the building they're talking about is the Chihuly exhibit which is about 40 feet tall according to their website [0]. There are plenty of vantage points around Seattle where you can see the space needle but not see what's next to it on the ground.

[0] https://www.chihulygardenandglass.com/about/exhibition

Re: Tell HN: Upwork has an impersonation problem

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The point is, if he can see the needle out his window right now, he can just look out the window to look at the building next door.

Or use Google street view.

That would be noticeable via webcam.

Re: Tell HN: Upwork has an impersonation problem

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post #82

I'm looking for advice on a similar issue. Somebody is impersonating me on dating sites and blackmailing women. They convince their victims to send nude photos, and then they threaten to send the photos to their families. The scammer (or scammers) use photos of me that used to be publicly available on social media. They also use my real name, presumably so that the victims see a legitimate LinkedIn profile when they…

I had a similar problem, except he raped a woman (convinced her to come to an address, come inside, all lights off, no talking). She contacted me via LinkedIn when he ghosted her. Got police involved but took 18 months to get all the information lined up from bumble and Snapchat (ie phone numbers etc). He was deported for domestic violence before they could arrest him. Trying to get plenty of fish, bumble, tinder to…

God, that's awful. Thank you for sharing. I'm sorry for you and especially the women involved.

It's horrible to think that my photos are being used for this and there's nothing I can do about it. Even if I cover myself legally, people are still going to be victimized. I hope I never have to involve the police.

Re: Tell HN: Upwork has an impersonation problem

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post #61
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I got burned by something like this. I hired an editor (not on Upwork) who had worked for a number of very famous authors (people you've heard of, people who've sold millions of copies). They did a fantastic sample edit, and the quality of the work dropped off precipitously by about the 20% point of the manuscript. The best-case scenario is that they just didn't care, because I'm a nobody and because of the novel's l…

> However, there's a lot of forensic evidence suggesting that they farmed the edit out to more than one person (which would explain the inconsistent apparent level of skill and care). I'm sorry about your experience. But you might be interested in knowing that that phenomenon goes way back -- a lot of the "old masters" paintings were done by apprentice artists working under some level of supervision from the "named"…

> Also quite a few of the most prolific contemporary mass market authors have "assistants".

I told my new editor what I paid to hire the big-name editor and she said, "You could've gotten a book [as in a ghostwriter] for that."

And yeah, I'm well aware of the authors who farm out their names. If you're writing formulaic commercial work, why not? I don't begrudge their existing; I just wish they didn't take up so much marketing and publicity oxygen (but, on the other hand, if the commercial hacks weren't using that up, it'd go to overconnected MFA "literary" hacks, so... no worse for it?)

Re: Tell HN: Upwork has an impersonation problem

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The point is, if he can see the needle out his window right now, he can just look out the window to look at the building next door.

The space needle is over 500 feet tall. I'm assuming that the building they're talking about is the Chihuly exhibit which is about 40 feet tall according to their website [0]. There are plenty of vantage points around Seattle where you can see the space needle but not see what's next to it on the ground. [0] https://www.chihulygardenandglass.com/about/exhibition

The music museum next door to the Space Needle is MoPOP (formerly known as the Experience Music Project):

https://www.mopop.org/

That being said, it's definitely much shorter than the Space Needle.

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