i am not surprised that he made this move quietly. poettering's work attracted a disproportionate share of criticism, and moving to microsoft is not exactly a helpful move to quell that criticism. on the contrary, it will only get worse. since he continues to work on systemd, critics will now start to decry systemd as being a microsoft product, or at least strongly influenced by microsoft. so this move is likely to s…
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#93Agent Poettering, welcome back. You've done tremendous work for us. *I actually don't care strongly about systemd one way or the other but couldn't resist the joke
double agent poettering. you are to remain quiet in your new position until you receive the call to activate.
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#94Re: Systemd Creator Lands at Microsoft
#95Hey, he'll feel right at home with Powershell and the absurdly long verbs it uses.
You know that they can be shortened right? Get-ChildItem = gci I for one really like PowerShell, if it could consume bash completions I would switch to using it as my $SHELL. Right now I'm leaning to switch from ZSH to Xonsh (Python). Reason for liking PowerShell: C# compability, OOP, semi-sane syntax. You can do type definitions, serde multiple formats into native structures.
I don’t use many tools outside cmdlets or pwsh built-ins, but have you turned on history completions and menu complete? I find that I don’t need completions for external commands since history complete will just remember what I did last time.
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#96Am I the only one who finds that weird that the author of this piece purportedly a journalist relies on twitter and rumours rather than you know email or call Pottering to ask him what he is doing? Is Phoronix supposed to be taken seriously?
Frankly no. I don't mean to denigrate, but Phoronix is generally not seen as all that great a source of good journalism. He did say he at least tried to confirm this news however.
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"Surveillance capitalism is winning over the free software..." software that "just works" and offers the latest and the greatest features does, not "surveillance capitalism" or "open source developers". "They have failed in their mission to stop all this closed-source software from spreading." except that was never the mission, the mission was to provide an alternative to complex licensing as well as simplify the imp…
On that front, thanks to anti-GPL folks, we are back into Shareware and Public Domain, although under different names.
Trying to use GPL software makes you a target with angry techies constantly accusing you of not publishing complete diffs of changes needed to ship features. GPL fanatics are the most to blame for putting negative pressure on GPL. That is why Macs have wget instead of curl. GPL does not necessarily mean poison, but that is what it has become.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
double agent poettering. you are to remain quiet in your new position until you receive the call to activate.
Due to an unforseen DBUS on WSL bug, we never were able to activate our double agent.
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>The same greybeard friend of mine who still complains on systemd happily adopted pipewire. Pipewire is not from Poettering. He did Pulseaudio, which is so terrible it inspired the folks to write Pipewire to replace it.
People keep talking about how terrible Pulse is for them, but my decades of experience using Linux desktop recalls that for whatever faults Pulse might have it was a huge improvement over the shitshow that was Linux audio before it.
Pulseaudio got popular and then became "irreplaceable" because it started playing a role that would have been played by HAL back in those days; i.e. setting up audio policy (routing, etc) whenever the kernel would fail at it. I was very critic of Pulseaudio, a sound server, incorporating this role, and argued that this complexity would make this project impossible to replace with a newer sound server when it inevitably came. I was proven wrong, albeit in my defense the replacement Pipewire did require a shitton of effort, and PA was becoming toxic in the meanwhile (see the Bluetooth codecs drama).
Pulseaudio's "big" technicaly improvement ("glitch-free" audio, aka interrupt-less, long buffers), and without a doubt its major cause of annoyances to users (since it exercised a lot of rarely used APIs), has not been adopted by Pipewire (which goes back to "low latency" + lots of interrupts) or any other sound server for the matter. (And Pipewire still manages to have better performance...)
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They’ve worked very very hard in the past to extinguish and annihilate a lot of the values HN stands for. Either you’re too young or didn’t follow tech back then but MS and Gates truly did evil moves to try and kill any and all competition, especially Linux and open source. Many of us remember.
That was the bad old days. Things got better under Nadella. Just like they got steadily more evil at Google. There are no big corporations you can trust in the long term, but at least MS is behaving reasonably well right now.
See https://isdotnetopen.com/ and especially the recent controversies with Omnisharp ( https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2022/06/16/csharp-... ).
See also the first snobby, then underhanded, then petulant behavior of the Windows Terminal maintainers recently with respect to some performance improvements: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31284419
It's very reasonable to be skeptical of Microsoft's relationship to open-source in 2022, even as we might also feel positively about some aspects of their new open-source strategy.