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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

methusala8 wrote: post #63
0xmohit wrote: post #32

In UP, India, a Muslim restaurant owner was arrested because the non-veg food he wrapped with old newspapers had photos of Hindu gods and goddesses. https://thewire.in/rights/up-man-arrested-for-wrapping-chick...

I can share ten stories where the offenders are Muslims and the victims are Hindus. Wire won't be covering those stories. This newspaper is as prejudiced against Hindus as it gets.

The Wire doesn’t need to cover them because mainstream media channels are already blasting them on primetime everyday.

Amazing that in a country where there’s a Hindu in practically every single position of authority, Hindus still harbor such a deep seated victimization complex.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by ridiculous_leke »

ethbr0 wrote: post #28
RicoElectrico wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

India is weird. It's not really called authoritarian (rankings don't classify it as such), but there are many similar stories of government dysfunction and overreach. Maybe someone else has a word for them?

A lack of rule of law? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law

That's true. India is a severely under-policed country.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by throw_away_1042 »

Bla2e wrote: post #81

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The source you quoted is questionable.

"The website has published fake news[26] and anti-Muslim[30] commentary on multiple occasions, including a 2020 incident in which it falsely claimed that a Hindu boy was sacrificed in a Bihar mosque"

From the wiki page of OpIndia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpIndia

Also foreign credit cards were not enabled on RazorPay

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by ridiculous_leke »

randomperson_24 wrote: post #51
rdl wrote: post #45

I'm not a lawyer, nor am I an Indian lawyer, but if Razorpay received a Section 91 order ( https://indiankanoon.org/doc/788840/ ) they wouldn't have much choice on turning over any records. It looks to be the rough equivalent of third party doctrine in the US (which is also horrible). It can come from "any Court or any officer in charge of a police station". Banks and fintech in many countries are even more exposed t…

Razorpay did receive a Section 91 order according to their tweet: https://twitter.com/Razorpay/status/1544313411621646338

This is an important detail that OP missed in their post.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

RicoElectrico wrote: post #18
ghoomketu wrote: post #4

While I have no sympathy for razorpay but I'd just like to point out that laws in India are much more heavy handed than a country like US. People are thrown in jail for social media posts and sometimes just for liking a social media post(1) Twitter has been having a very hard time operating in India too(2) and routinely censoring stuff so while IANAL just remember that things are very different in different parts of…

India is weird. It's not really called authoritarian (rankings don't classify it as such), but there are many similar stories of government dysfunction and overreach. Maybe someone else has a word for them?

The India system is essentially a system of “who you know”. Anyone who grew up in India knows that if you’re a powerful bureaucrat, cop, or politician, you can do whatever you want. The law doesn’t really apply to you.

The only exception is if you manage to piss off someone higher up in the power hierarchy.

Its not so much as authoritarian as it is Darwinian.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by voakbasda »

parsimo2010 wrote: post #26
RicoElectrico wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

India is weird. It's not really called authoritarian (rankings don't classify it as such), but there are many similar stories of government dysfunction and overreach. Maybe someone else has a word for them?

Corrupt is an appropriate word for this kind of behavior. The government does not officially condone the behavior, and it would probably function well if the policies were followed as written. But instead people get some power and abuse it. India is not unique, many countries struggle with corruption.

Many? Which countries do not suffer from corruption? This seems to be the human condition. As the old saying goes, “power corrupts…”. It’s not of question of “if” a country is corrupt, it is “how much”.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by [deleted] »

smashah wrote: post #71
anon261114 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I give zero sympathy or support to BJP and its destruction of India's democratic institutions. Yet, I can't agree with your comment. First, I don't think Razorpay supports BJP or its bigotry, at least openly. One indicator of that is that they have retained critical media like AltNews and Wire as customers from years. I don't think they'd do that if they were pro-BJP or pro-bigotry. Plus, I've noticed that rightwing…

neutrality in the face of bigotry seems like alignment, or at least it's a sign of a larger problem which you've very clearly laid out. I think it's time to consider Boycotting, divestment and sanctions of India since it's flat-spinning into the clutches of full-on fascism. Very sad.

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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by [deleted] »

ahamedirshad123 wrote: post #83
throwaway_1928 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Referencing the BBC and the Wire here is the equivalent of quoting the WaPo when discussing Trump.

You want him to refer India Today, Timesnow, republic, euro news, danik bhaskar and Dhinamalar? Or **opIndia?

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