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EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, and other tech firms

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Re: EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, and other tech firms

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Post by Hamuko »

988747 wrote: post #8
superb-owl wrote: post #5

This is huge. Forcing Apple to allow app side-loading, third-party payments, etc is going to wrest away control of the iOS ecosystem (and eat pretty heavily into their revenues [1] [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/apple-implies-it-generated-r... I hope some of these regulations spill over into the U.S. and the rest of the world.

I wonder if it would make more financial sense for Apple to withdraw from EU market, rather than complying. The numbers for 2021 are pretty much in line: $89B - Apple sales in Europe (including some non-EU countries, most notably UK) $85B - Apple AppStore revenue worldwide. The question is: which one has more potential for growth.

Doesn't Apple route all of their international sales through Ireland, which is in the EU? They'd need to find another tax haven.

Re: EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, and other tech firms

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Post by oneoff786 »

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #85

I really hope Sony and Nintendo are classified as gatekeepers as well because this > Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. would be huge for Playstation and Switch owners.

It might kill off consoles entirely tbh

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Post by Mikeb85 »

tchocky wrote: post #35
kmlx wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> great, just like in the mid-00's! funnily enough i was working on apps that did this back in the mid 00s. it was horrible. the standards simply couldn’t keep up. the clients couldn’t keep up. in the end it was better for the end user not use those standards and instead we rolled our own. could be different story today but i don’t think so. just the video call feature would be an absolute mess to standardise. hell,…

Emojis are just Unicode characters, why would it be so hard?

There's lots of non-standard emojis used by various messaging apps.

Re: EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, and other tech firms

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Post by bushbaba »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #60
amelius wrote: post #13

It will be interesting to see what dark patterns Apple will come up with to resist this. I imagine every time you open Firefox you will get a popup window saying "Do you want to use Safari instead?"

Google already does this in its iOS apps. When tapping a link in e.g. Gmail, it won’t just open your default browser, but instead open a menu asking you to choose your default browser or Chrome. It has a “remember this choice” toggle but it shouldn’t be there at all… just obey the OS default browser setting.

Worse they don’t open the link in safari. Instead it’s a view in the gmail app so they can continue tracking your engagement.

Re: EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, and other tech firms

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Post by Hamuko »

ratww wrote: post #74
PedroCandeias wrote: post #4

I'm personally happy to stay inside Apple's ecosystem, but believe that everyone should have the option to choose. This looks like good news, a step in the direction of being more in control of the devices we buy.

> I'm personally happy to stay inside Apple's ecosystem I used to believe that I'd stay inside the Apple ecosystem if this ever happened, but the ecosystem has become a total dumpster fire in the last few years IMO. The App Store itself is riddled with 99% crap apps, there's a lot of advertisement that really puts me off, the macOS Store results are mostly copycat apps or very suspicious stuff (although most of the t…

I detest the App Store ads. They can't even be making that much money, but they completely undermine the reliability of the App Store.

Re: EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, and other tech firms

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Post by dzonga »

in as much this bring native firefox i.e gecko engines to iOS it will also mean innovative native apps not just on iOS since you won't be restricted to native apps that use apple technology ie Swift, UIKit etc you could totally write an app that renders using a game engine in Rust whatever and as long it compiles for the platform you're good to go. One thing though, hopefully sandboxing is maintained

Re: EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, and other tech firms

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Post by PaulKeeble »

s1k3s wrote: post #89

I can't make up my mind if this is good or bad. On one hand, FAANG has a huge advantage over anyone else on the market, but they did build that product and they did spend their own money to do it. I'd be curious if there are any other occurrences in history of something so big ending up regulated by the government?

Microsoft is an earlier example of a company with theoretical competition but which ended up with significant intervention due to the practical walled garden they had created and where exhibiting significant monopoly powers over.
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