Media productions are daughters of their time. We currently have a situation where the elite in Hollywood are desperate to bring diversity and blackwashing into the stories. When a new LOTR series is shot in 50 years from now, this will no longer be an issue.
Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
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Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#92Even with the rebate, how can they hope to recoup the investment? Merch? DVD Sales? Increasing sign ups to Prime? I have a doubt the profits from that will help them earn money to cover up the remaining 300 million or so they have still invested. And the "internet" really reacted negatively to the trailer as well. (I personally didn't hate the trailer myself but after having watched the original trilogy and the first…
Amazon Prime customers spend $1968 / year on average. $465M / $1968 = 236,280 For perspective, Disney Plus added 7.9 million users in just the first quarter of 2022.
I pay $36/yr for Amazon prime. That's over 50x less. You'd need 13M new users who want to pay for just that, and nothing else.
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#93From reading the article, $200M was for the rights alone, and NZ is rebating 25% so it comes out to more like 150M net on production of the actual show.
Sounds to me like it's rather $665M in total, with a rebate of $116M.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
LOTR, and also Peter Jackson are not compatible with modern media. LOTR is completely opposed storytelling wise to the current dogmas of postmodernism and equity, it's fundamentally a story based on old western/european/christian myths, basically what gets called white supremacy these days. I think this will turn out to be an absolute morbid tv series as it will force LOTR into the current dogmas, but this is probabl…
although i wouldn’t have worded it the same way, there’s definitely something true in your comment. I’m still amazed that people keep torturing stories made at different eras with different mentalities to try and promote today’s philosophy instead of coming with original materials. If you want diversity and black people on screen, why not create stories about the amazing empires that ruled the african continent in th…
> amazing empires that ruled the african continent in the past
because then you'd have to confront that african empires had slaves too
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
LOTR, and also Peter Jackson are not compatible with modern media. LOTR is completely opposed storytelling wise to the current dogmas of postmodernism and equity, it's fundamentally a story based on old western/european/christian myths, basically what gets called white supremacy these days. I think this will turn out to be an absolute morbid tv series as it will force LOTR into the current dogmas, but this is probabl…
although i wouldn’t have worded it the same way, there’s definitely something true in your comment. I’m still amazed that people keep torturing stories made at different eras with different mentalities to try and promote today’s philosophy instead of coming with original materials. If you want diversity and black people on screen, why not create stories about the amazing empires that ruled the african continent in th…
Because that would require all these studios to actually create new things and take risks. And that's not what these corporations are known for, right?
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keep in mind that Amazon needs to get only ~0.2M incremental Amazon Prime subscribers to recoup the investment. The lifetime value (LTV) of a Prime subscriber has been estimated at ~$2,300.[a] You can play around with the figure, but given that every LOTR fan is going to want to watch this series even if it sucks , I wouldn't be surprised is Amazon ends up getting far more than ~0.2M new Prime subscribers because of…
Your analysis makes sense, but I was under the impression that RoP was a pure passion project from Jeff Bezos with no regard for the financials or for a return on investment.
Based on what, second or third hand sources?
Jeff Bezos isn’t spending the money, Amazon is.
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
#97Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good. bezzzos bezzosn my bezzzos
Just like Melkor creating the orcs...
Re: Amazon spending $465M on season 1 of The Lord of the Rings series
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Sean Bean wasn't an unknown. He wasn't a star either, but he was the villain in one of better Bond movies and also was in the first Lord of the Rings.
Perhaps a gimmick — known name, killed off. Buzz!
No perhaps.
Ned being killed off early is a key part of the "no one is safe in the game of thrones!" motif. Having a known actor and playing against type (nice guy when usually villain) just underscores the surprise.
There is a similar story about Gene Wilder in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. He first appears with a limp and then somersaults to show he's fine. The whole point of that scene is to have the audience think "I can never trust anything this guy says again".
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#100I’m not so sure the LOTR series is ideal for expansion. It feels like Peter Jackson has already tackled all the really interesting parts of the LOTR world.
Just wait until the magic moment where Sauron tells Frodo that he's his father.