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An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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Re: An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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https://speed.readwise.io Your results Typeface Bionic Reading Literata Article 1 591 WPM 352 WPM Article 2 657 WPM 457 WPM Average Speed 624 WPM 405 WPM You read 43% faster with Bionic Reading Guess gotta give this a try for storybooks... maybe some enterprising and bored HN nerd can make a Calibre plugin that converts regular epubs to bionic reading enabled epub files ---- but the truth is, for the aforementioned s…

This technique will work for most text, but can be deliberately hacked in a bad way. I discovered this about 20 years ago from a cleverly written attack post on Perlmonks. Every paragraph started with a positive sentence whose tone slid into negative by the end of the paragraph. And then to positive for the next paragraph. I was horrified at how an attack piece had so many positive votes, and asked people why they we…

That's why I specified story books instead of online articles, because with story books, you build a rapport with the author and you have kinda narrowed down the options they will take, on a meta level.

But good point on hacking people's tendency to glide, I shall keep that in mind.

Re: An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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https://speed.readwise.io Your results Typeface Bionic Reading Literata Article 1 591 WPM 352 WPM Article 2 657 WPM 457 WPM Average Speed 624 WPM 405 WPM You read 43% faster with Bionic Reading Guess gotta give this a try for storybooks... maybe some enterprising and bored HN nerd can make a Calibre plugin that converts regular epubs to bionic reading enabled epub files ---- but the truth is, for the aforementioned s…

Jeeze that is fast. More than twice the average reading speed. I wonder if bionic reading helps more for "speed readers"? Your results surely suggest it. Also - It must be so painful for you to type, or heck even speak!

I dunno if I'm a "speed" reader, or just a fast glosser.

Also, I am not quite sure if I really understood the text... or used my knowledge of the views of the "tech" community, and just "guessed" which of the three mcq options paul graham probably meant?

It could be I just bullshitted my way into correct answers...Honestly, after a night's sleep, I don't recall much of what was said in those articles, so how much did I actually retain?

That said, I do find it painful to watch any content on less than 2x speed, but that maybe because I'm probably on the spectrum.... Things get complicated.

Re: An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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If the authors of the article are reading this: I would also do a test to see if the variance of the two groups (bionic vs normal) is significantly different. I did not check it but bionic might be very beneficial to some and detrimental to others which would not be seen when looking at the mean (you should also plot the distributions, it pretty much always a good first reflex).

for sure. due to this improved experiment design, we should now have the data to perform paired analyses rather than just looking at means.

what test do you use to compare variances though?

Re: An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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I find it really difficult and annoying -- and thereby slow -- to read with these "fixation" points as that's just not how I feel eyes work... I want my eyes to scan across the text rather than ratcheting from one word to the next word, which is both slow and exhausting. The words and "fixation" is thereby just a massive distraction. Hell: if I really really need to read quickly I try to do this thing where I scan my…

Personal anecdote. When I try to read fast, I notice fixation points as my eyes skip across the text. But it will be whole chunks of words. And anything that tries to draw my attention to one letter as opposed to another, will slow me down. Note that my natural reading speed is ~950 wpm, so I tend to ignore these fads. I read fast enough already. The main barrier to reading faster is that it gets exhausting having my…

950 wpm is impressive.

I did the test from the article, and got about 500 wpm with the standard font (about 400 wpm on the Bionic Reading thing). Even that speed is at the limit; I'm already skipping parts of the text that don't seem to contribute much (I could still correctly answer the reading comprehension quizzes at the end though).

I ignore all those fads too. This Bionic Reading font in particular feels completely backwards: it tries to make me read word by word which is needlessly slow.

Re: An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I simply read a lot of science fiction/fantasy as a kid, and it happened naturally. I would view claims that a random person could be taught to read at my speed with skepticism. But I've met other people who read as fast as I do. As a kid I thought I was simply a slightly fast reader until I happened to take a copy of https://www.amazon.com/Clan-Cave-Bear-Jean-Auel/dp/060961097... to a bath. I started, got caught up…

Does that take any enjoyment out of reading for you? I tried speed reading for a brief stint, but then decided to stop. For me reading a good book is like savoring good food, I wouldn't want to chug it down.

Not speaking for btilly here, strictly for myself: I think it depends on the kind of book, kind of writing, and personal expectations. When reading a novel, I'm mostly interested in the story and character development, and less in things like long descriptions of the environment (which Jean Auel does, a lot, though maybe not as much in the first one IIRC). I'm like the kid always asking "what's next" even before the narrator finishes his sentence.

So I like to read fast, and maybe there are some things I'm missing but I don't feel like that's a loss.

Mind you I'm not really speed reading (I think), I just read pretty fast. And skip uninteresting pieces of text (by skip I mean read some words or parts of sentences here and there, like the start and/or end of paragraphs, to know what the text is about so I know where to resume normal reading).

Now food is something else entirely :) I'm a pretty fast reader but a slow eater.

Re: An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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In my experience, more people need to work on reading comprehension than reading speed. Comprehension is what actually matters, and is what seems to be in short supply. If Bionic Reading promised increased reading speed with no loss of comprehension, and provided it, all it would mean is that people would misunderstand things at a faster rate.

I’ve been thinking of that a lot as well. What’s the point of being able to read fast if you miss the fine details? What’s the point if you read so fast that you just sort of forget everything? One of the many issues I have with contemporary literate culture, another being those who insist on reading a large volume of books, on being “well read”, rather than focusing on quality.

For me an important part of reading fast is finding out which parts are interesting and which parts are not, and then focusing more on the interesting parts.

Re: An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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In my experience, more people need to work on reading comprehension than reading speed. Comprehension is what actually matters, and is what seems to be in short supply. If Bionic Reading promised increased reading speed with no loss of comprehension, and provided it, all it would mean is that people would misunderstand things at a faster rate.

Reminds me of reading math textbooks in college. That text tends to be incredibly information dense, so I would spend minutes reading just one or two pages. One of my friends who tried to read them like they were any other book would get frustrated and stop.

The idea of reading at a given speed seems wonky to me as well. Its all about information density and how deeply you need to understand something imo. I read light fiction pretty quick, non fiction slower, technical stuff much slower etc

Re: An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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post #89
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I simply read a lot of science fiction/fantasy as a kid, and it happened naturally. I would view claims that a random person could be taught to read at my speed with skepticism. But I've met other people who read as fast as I do. As a kid I thought I was simply a slightly fast reader until I happened to take a copy of https://www.amazon.com/Clan-Cave-Bear-Jean-Auel/dp/060961097... to a bath. I started, got caught up…

Does that take any enjoyment out of reading for you? I tried speed reading for a brief stint, but then decided to stop. For me reading a good book is like savoring good food, I wouldn't want to chug it down.

It depends on the book. Most sci-fi/fantasy I enjoy at speed. Anything where I want to find out what happens NEXT. But poetry and math I would want to read more slowly. I read more quickly than I think, and a full appreciation of the rhythm of language takes time.

What I do isn't what most people call speed reading, though. I don't skip any words, and can recognize and pull out exact phrases. I don't know how much text I could hold like that. When I was 19, a long book. But I think my capacity has gone down with age.

Re: An experiment to test if Bionic Reading helps you read faster

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post #80

If the authors of the article are reading this: I would also do a test to see if the variance of the two groups (bionic vs normal) is significantly different. I did not check it but bionic might be very beneficial to some and detrimental to others which would not be seen when looking at the mean (you should also plot the distributions, it pretty much always a good first reflex).

for sure. due to this improved experiment design, we should now have the data to perform paired analyses rather than just looking at means. what test do you use to compare variances though?

There are several options but the Levene test should be appropriate: https://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/eda/section3/eda35a...
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